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bespoke radio

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for the masses headline additional july

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8th 1947

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the army air force's has announced that

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a flying bist has been found and is now

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in the possession of the army if the

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game is rigged

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change the game game changer

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i occasionally think how quickly our

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differences worldwide

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would vanish if we were facing an alien

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this is fade to black with your host

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jimmy church

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on the game changer radio network and

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kgra

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i need your help to get to the year

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you're listening to fate to flag with

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good evening yeah man

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fade to black bespoke radio

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i made it let's do this

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today's tuesday january 12th

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12 days into the new year only 353 days

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left we are live from a bunker

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somewhere in the middle of beautiful

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downtown burbank california

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and i would like to welcome everybody

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listening all around the world all

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across the united states

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hither and tether to and fro back and

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up and down east and west north and

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south far and near

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this is fade to black for kjccr the game

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i'm yours jimmy church what is cracking

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everybody how you doing

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yeah we got one coming up tonight greg

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house is here

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big tech in the drama that is taking

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over the world right now we're also

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going to talk about the parlor hack

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hack i'm using air quotes hack

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let me tell you about my world let me

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tell you about the world of jimmy church

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it's it's it's so cool anything goes

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it doesn't really matter what it is

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i have the ability because i know people

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and i can i can pick up the phone i can

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go straight to the source

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it doesn't matter what the subject is

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i call my coming right it doesn't matter

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i have the ability to do that and when

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it comes down to big tech

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and what is happening right now in our

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world there is only one person to call

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it's greg house

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i got that dude on speed dial

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speed dial and when we set up this show

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um this was before all the drama

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kicked off and and there was already you

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know some things happening

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there were issues then and you know i

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and then look what happened in the last

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man oh man oh man so we've got greg on

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the show oh and by the way

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uh last week greg goes hey church can i

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get you on my show

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right this is you know and uh we gotta

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what an honor and a privilege so he's

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probably listening right now

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greg i can't wait i can't wait for greg

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greg house is with us tonight tomorrow

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night all the breaking news

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uh that went down in the last 24 hours

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about the black vault and john greenwald

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um all the media

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uh media big and small around the world

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picked up on the story john greenwald

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and all of the cia documents that were

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to this very day are now

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all up on the black vault available for

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and all of that's going down and we had

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um and he was here to talk about

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for tomorrow and then boom

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yesterday at the crack of dawn i get

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this text because john gets up at like 4

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you get this text church check this out

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i was like what you know and i'm just

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focus i can't see before 12 noon

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cia ufo documents that uh it doesn't

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gone over and done it yet

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and then thursday is another fader night

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all night long now i realize today is

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we all know what is going on tomorrow

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mellow day all things considered not

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today was just kind of mellow so i'll

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about all of that in just a minute i've

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been having some fun today

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house will be with us at the bottom of

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balance off ah yeah check that out

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was that has that been off this whole

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check check check once in a while

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left right center you know what i'm

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myself in my cans all right follow me on

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at jchurchradio everybody out there

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that's left on twitter

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you can follow me if you can hear me if

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you still have a twitter account

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at j church radio hashtag f2b

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hello to everybody out there

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the chat room which is live and open i'm

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hello to everybody over in the chat

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i know what's going on okay

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all right you can also email throughout

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the show jimmy

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let's get to the breaking news yeah

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breaking news parlor

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is still down next up

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they're not playing around they got the

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everything else there in washington see

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they're not they're not playing around

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playing around more breaking news

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parlor is still down

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next up deutsche bank will not

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there's always lending tree or payday

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is still down

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aptopia signal is an encrypted messaging

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app by the way meaning that the company

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today the apple store all right more

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coming up next thousands of cia files

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about unidentified flying objects are

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publicly available for download the

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agency claims that the trove of

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all its information on the unexplained

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through today that's right

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the documents were published on the

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black vault website which is run by

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greenwald who will be joining us

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000 freedom of information requests over

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the years and scanning thousands of

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the website all right another breaking

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this just in parlor

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happy birthday to howard stern today

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67 years old wow

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he's insisting he's younger than me

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kirsty alley

288
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today is 70.

289
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yeah i'll top that rush limbaugh

290
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today is also 70.

291
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wow our dead guy's birthday today is the

292
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one and only

293
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moment of silence please for george

294
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duke 1946 to 2013 died at the age of 67.

295
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george of course was a keyboardist first

296
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we all know that pianist

297
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but he was also a great composer singer

298
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songwriter and

299
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record producer he first made a name for

300
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himself with the album

301
00:14:56,310 --> 00:14:54,079
the jean-luc ponte experience with the

302
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george duke trio and album that i used

303
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to own

304
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once upon a time great album he was

305
00:15:04,470 --> 00:15:01,120
known primarily for

306
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his 30 odd or so solo albums

307
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of which a brazilian love affair from

308
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1979

309
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was his most popular as well of course

310
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as for his insanely amazing

311
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collaborations

312
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with frank zappa he died on august 5th

313
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2013 right here in los angeles at the

314
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age of 67

315
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from cancer happy birthday george duke

316
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on this day in history otd

317
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1838 to be exact

318
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after his mormon bank fails in the panic

319
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of 1837

320
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joseph smith flees kirtland ohio to

321
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avoid arrest

322
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and heads for missouri to rebuild his

323
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religious community

324
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that's right fader fact

325
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there's this bar the bar is called

326
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patrick's

327
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is located on the border of georgia

328
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and tennessee it is split

329
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between the two states the georgia half

330
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is in a dry county meaning that any

331
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alcohol purchased

332
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at the bar on the tennessee side cannot

333
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be

334
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brought to the georgia side where the

335
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restrooms are

336
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and that's your favorite fact and i know

337
00:16:31,430 --> 00:16:30,000
what you're saying you're saying jimmy

338
00:16:37,269 --> 00:16:31,440
wait a minute here

339
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why don't they just build restrooms

340
00:16:43,670 --> 00:16:40,320
right why don't they build about the

341
00:16:47,910 --> 00:16:43,680
tennessee side that's where the booze is

342
00:16:50,949 --> 00:16:47,920
how can you have a bar serving beer

343
00:16:54,230 --> 00:16:50,959
chilled vodka and no restrooms

344
00:16:55,829 --> 00:16:54,240
i'll go figure it out all right tonight

345
00:16:57,189 --> 00:16:55,839
greg house is here

346
00:16:59,350 --> 00:16:57,199
we're going to be talking about this big

347
00:17:02,870 --> 00:16:59,360
tech drama and the list

348
00:17:04,549 --> 00:17:02,880
is long with all the big tech companies

349
00:17:06,230 --> 00:17:04,559
that are in on it today we're going to

350
00:17:08,069 --> 00:17:06,240
be talking about all of that

351
00:17:10,309 --> 00:17:08,079
and uh tomorrow night john greenwald

352
00:17:12,870 --> 00:17:10,319
joins us right on the heels of all those

353
00:17:16,150 --> 00:17:12,880
breaking news with him in the cia's ufo

354
00:17:17,350 --> 00:17:16,160
files um and a bunch of other stuff that

355
00:17:19,429 --> 00:17:17,360
we're going to be talking about tomorrow

356
00:17:22,309 --> 00:17:19,439
night john greenwald will be here

357
00:17:23,590 --> 00:17:22,319
then of course thursday is another fader

358
00:17:26,309 --> 00:17:23,600
night with open lines

359
00:17:27,829 --> 00:17:26,319
all night long now right now i need it i

360
00:17:29,510 --> 00:17:27,839
need it what a day

361
00:17:32,070 --> 00:17:29,520
what a day i want to tell you about my

362
00:17:34,470 --> 00:17:32,080
day right now as i hit this

363
00:17:35,669 --> 00:17:34,480
river moon coffee kirsty alley thank you

364
00:17:43,669 --> 00:17:35,679
for that karen

365
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indie susan just tweeted she says hey

366
00:17:48,630 --> 00:17:46,799
jimmy

367
00:17:50,070 --> 00:17:48,640
this is a minute ago and she's staying

368
00:17:52,950 --> 00:17:50,080
on top of her game

369
00:17:54,150 --> 00:17:52,960
she says hey jimmy does anyone know if

370
00:17:56,549 --> 00:17:54,160
parlor is still down

371
00:17:57,909 --> 00:17:56,559
she's asking for a friend uh yeah yeah

372
00:18:05,590 --> 00:17:57,919
parlor

373
00:18:10,150 --> 00:18:05,600
all right well as i said before

374
00:18:11,590 --> 00:18:10,160
river moon coffee rivermoonwellness.com

375
00:18:14,070 --> 00:18:11,600
all right you know what to do click on

376
00:18:17,350 --> 00:18:14,080
those links over at jimmychurchradio.com

377
00:18:22,470 --> 00:18:17,360
um i mean i just mentioned you know that

378
00:18:26,310 --> 00:18:22,480
today today day

379
00:18:29,990 --> 00:18:26,320
was relatively normal for the country

380
00:18:32,789 --> 00:18:30,000
it was and

381
00:18:34,310 --> 00:18:32,799
as crazy as today was after everything

382
00:18:37,270 --> 00:18:34,320
that we had been through today was

383
00:18:39,909 --> 00:18:37,280
smooth sailing

384
00:18:40,470 --> 00:18:39,919
we lasted through the day and i'm here

385
00:18:43,190 --> 00:18:40,480
live

386
00:18:45,350 --> 00:18:43,200
on the air so we've made it this far

387
00:18:49,029 --> 00:18:45,360
things are good

388
00:18:50,710 --> 00:18:49,039
night i spent most of the day doing

389
00:18:53,110 --> 00:18:50,720
something i haven't done in a very long

390
00:18:57,190 --> 00:18:55,510
i was basically trolling everyone on

391
00:19:00,310 --> 00:18:57,200
social media

392
00:19:03,830 --> 00:19:00,320
yeah it was great too

393
00:19:04,710 --> 00:19:03,840
trying to start some fires man and uh so

394
00:19:09,190 --> 00:19:04,720
i could spend

395
00:19:12,390 --> 00:19:09,200
the rest of my day blocking people

396
00:19:13,990 --> 00:19:12,400
i did it i did it for sport today i did

397
00:19:16,710 --> 00:19:14,000
i don't even know what the final tally

398
00:19:21,190 --> 00:19:16,720
was but uh it was a lot of fun

399
00:19:24,710 --> 00:19:21,200
it's freaking awesome twitter

400
00:19:27,830 --> 00:19:24,720
for sure has done a lot of the work

401
00:19:29,029 --> 00:19:27,840
for me it would take me days and days of

402
00:19:33,350 --> 00:19:29,039
finding and blocking

403
00:19:35,029 --> 00:19:33,360
trollbot q accounts and to be honest

404
00:19:38,070 --> 00:19:35,039
what is left of my followers at the

405
00:19:40,630 --> 00:19:38,080
moment are those who truly want to be a

406
00:19:45,990 --> 00:19:40,640
part of this community in the show

407
00:19:49,029 --> 00:19:46,000
right twitter's timing

408
00:19:52,230 --> 00:19:49,039
cleansing

409
00:19:54,870 --> 00:19:52,240
and this campaign of theirs is suspect

410
00:19:56,630 --> 00:19:54,880
for sure i get it they should have done

411
00:19:57,669 --> 00:19:56,640
this a long time ago before it got out

412
00:20:00,870 --> 00:19:57,679
of hand but

413
00:20:02,149 --> 00:20:00,880
it's done and they are certainly within

414
00:20:06,390 --> 00:20:02,159
their right to do

415
00:20:09,750 --> 00:20:06,400
whatever they want facebook

416
00:20:12,950 --> 00:20:09,760
is another matter altogether because

417
00:20:16,390 --> 00:20:12,960
my facebook page my personal page

418
00:20:18,310 --> 00:20:16,400
is my own and it was originally set up

419
00:20:20,390 --> 00:20:18,320
to get connected with friends or family

420
00:20:22,149 --> 00:20:20,400
you know people from panama indianapolis

421
00:20:24,870 --> 00:20:22,159
different companies that i've worked for

422
00:20:25,750 --> 00:20:24,880
over the years you know who as we all

423
00:20:28,390 --> 00:20:25,760
know

424
00:20:28,950 --> 00:20:28,400
right we just lose track or have lost

425
00:20:31,270 --> 00:20:28,960
track

426
00:20:31,990 --> 00:20:31,280
of friends and people that we knew over

427
00:20:33,510 --> 00:20:32,000
the years

428
00:20:35,510 --> 00:20:33,520
and at the beginning of facebook it was

429
00:20:37,909 --> 00:20:35,520
cool man going in and finding this and

430
00:20:39,190 --> 00:20:37,919
going down and finding friends in the

431
00:20:41,430 --> 00:20:39,200
company and people and

432
00:20:42,630 --> 00:20:41,440
and clicking and classmates and things

433
00:20:46,310 --> 00:20:42,640
and i was like whoa

434
00:20:47,830 --> 00:20:46,320
man it was awesome so i can go back

435
00:20:49,590 --> 00:20:47,840
you know my friend's list today you know

436
00:20:52,149 --> 00:20:49,600
whatever five thousand people but uh

437
00:20:54,549 --> 00:20:52,159
go back because they're all there

438
00:20:56,789 --> 00:20:54,559
chronologically right you go back to the

439
00:20:58,710 --> 00:20:56,799
in there you know and i can see who i

440
00:21:02,549 --> 00:20:58,720
found on facebook back in whatever

441
00:21:04,950 --> 00:21:02,559
2008 right okay well that's

442
00:21:06,230 --> 00:21:04,960
that's facebook those are people that

443
00:21:10,149 --> 00:21:06,240
i've reached

444
00:21:13,270 --> 00:21:10,159
out to that i know

445
00:21:14,549 --> 00:21:13,280
right and and people that have reached

446
00:21:16,230 --> 00:21:14,559
out to me that knew me

447
00:21:18,149 --> 00:21:16,240
and it was just like an old long lost

448
00:21:20,870 --> 00:21:18,159
friend man how you doing

449
00:21:21,909 --> 00:21:20,880
that was facebook that's my page that's

450
00:21:25,270 --> 00:21:21,919
totally different than

451
00:21:27,510 --> 00:21:25,280
twitter after starting up the radio

452
00:21:28,070 --> 00:21:27,520
thing back in 2010 or so i started to

453
00:21:30,630 --> 00:21:28,080
get

454
00:21:31,110 --> 00:21:30,640
friend requests from people who i've

455
00:21:34,230 --> 00:21:31,120
never

456
00:21:35,909 --> 00:21:34,240
actually met in person

457
00:21:37,590 --> 00:21:35,919
but i let them into my world because

458
00:21:41,029 --> 00:21:37,600
they were reaching out and

459
00:21:44,310 --> 00:21:41,039
this was a an innocent time

460
00:21:48,950 --> 00:21:44,320
2 000 dead you know it was all cool

461
00:21:52,549 --> 00:21:50,710
if someone different from twitter in

462
00:21:54,950 --> 00:21:52,559
facebook if someone posts suggest

463
00:21:55,750 --> 00:21:54,960
jokes or get offensive and i don't

464
00:21:59,110 --> 00:21:55,760
actually

465
00:22:01,029 --> 00:21:59,120
know this person you know met them in

466
00:22:04,549 --> 00:22:01,039
real life

467
00:22:06,070 --> 00:22:04,559
just block them it's what i do i don't

468
00:22:08,390 --> 00:22:06,080
even care

469
00:22:09,510 --> 00:22:08,400
now take note of this if we have never

470
00:22:12,070 --> 00:22:09,520
met

471
00:22:13,350 --> 00:22:12,080
but our friends on facebook playing

472
00:22:15,110 --> 00:22:13,360
bounds man

473
00:22:16,789 --> 00:22:15,120
playing bounds at all times the guy just

474
00:22:18,070 --> 00:22:16,799
got zero patience for it i don't care i

475
00:22:18,630 --> 00:22:18,080
don't want it in my feed i don't want to

476
00:22:21,029 --> 00:22:18,640
see it

477
00:22:22,390 --> 00:22:21,039
it ain't going to be there block done

478
00:22:23,190 --> 00:22:22,400
never have to see or hear from this

479
00:22:25,110 --> 00:22:23,200
person ever again

480
00:22:26,789 --> 00:22:25,120
i've never met him in persons what do i

481
00:22:30,470 --> 00:22:26,799
care right

482
00:22:32,789 --> 00:22:30,480
now here is the real truth

483
00:22:34,549 --> 00:22:32,799
if we are old friends from back in the

484
00:22:36,950 --> 00:22:34,559
day right

485
00:22:37,669 --> 00:22:36,960
or we have met in person and we know

486
00:22:41,830 --> 00:22:37,679
each other

487
00:22:44,549 --> 00:22:41,840
well i'll let the bad stuff fly

488
00:22:45,830 --> 00:22:44,559
right you know or things that i don't

489
00:22:47,990 --> 00:22:45,840
agree with

490
00:22:50,390 --> 00:22:48,000
because that's how it should be in real

491
00:22:52,470 --> 00:22:50,400
life too

492
00:22:54,230 --> 00:22:52,480
right that's that's the way it is

493
00:22:56,549 --> 00:22:54,240
friends are friends

494
00:22:58,870 --> 00:22:56,559
family is family and we are never going

495
00:23:00,149 --> 00:22:58,880
to agree on anything and it's rare when

496
00:23:02,710 --> 00:23:00,159
it happens

497
00:23:03,190 --> 00:23:02,720
it's just a part of life but if we've

498
00:23:06,710 --> 00:23:03,200
never

499
00:23:11,190 --> 00:23:06,720
met and you step out of line

500
00:23:14,310 --> 00:23:11,200
block i don't care i don't care

501
00:23:16,630 --> 00:23:14,320
twitter is the exact opposite

502
00:23:17,990 --> 00:23:16,640
people can follow you whether you like

503
00:23:19,990 --> 00:23:18,000
it or not

504
00:23:21,750 --> 00:23:20,000
and they can say whatever they want as

505
00:23:24,789 --> 00:23:21,760
well

506
00:23:27,909 --> 00:23:24,799
you do not approve your followers

507
00:23:31,350 --> 00:23:27,919
no it's the exact opposite of facebook

508
00:23:32,789 --> 00:23:31,360
therefore you don't have any idea who

509
00:23:35,669 --> 00:23:32,799
your followers are

510
00:23:37,909 --> 00:23:35,679
or what they're like or where they live

511
00:23:40,070 --> 00:23:37,919
you don't know anything in fact

512
00:23:40,950 --> 00:23:40,080
if you haven't met them in person you

513
00:23:44,789 --> 00:23:40,960
know

514
00:23:47,269 --> 00:23:44,799
nothing so yeah i get it

515
00:23:49,750 --> 00:23:47,279
twitter says that they've removed

516
00:23:51,510 --> 00:23:49,760
accounts for whatever reason

517
00:23:54,070 --> 00:23:51,520
and this time around it was all queuing

518
00:23:54,710 --> 00:23:54,080
on well whatever see ya goodbye don't

519
00:24:01,350 --> 00:23:54,720
care

520
00:24:04,470 --> 00:24:01,360
and the other side of the coin is

521
00:24:07,510 --> 00:24:04,480
just as simple if anyone closed

522
00:24:10,630 --> 00:24:07,520
their account for whatever reason

523
00:24:11,750 --> 00:24:10,640
whatever it just doesn't matter i don't

524
00:24:15,590 --> 00:24:11,760
care

525
00:24:20,470 --> 00:24:18,870
i'll never know if things were done in

526
00:24:23,350 --> 00:24:20,480
protest

527
00:24:25,590 --> 00:24:23,360
if they were bot accounts or if someone

528
00:24:27,990 --> 00:24:25,600
violated the terms of service whatever i

529
00:24:31,350 --> 00:24:28,000
don't care i don't care

530
00:24:33,269 --> 00:24:31,360
what i do know is that whatever is left

531
00:24:36,789 --> 00:24:33,279
on my twitter account

532
00:24:38,310 --> 00:24:36,799
is the good stuff those who truly want

533
00:24:39,590 --> 00:24:38,320
to follow fade to black hang out with

534
00:24:41,510 --> 00:24:39,600
the fader knots and be a part of this

535
00:24:46,470 --> 00:24:41,520
family

536
00:24:48,870 --> 00:24:46,480
we can talk we can laugh we can learn

537
00:24:51,830 --> 00:24:48,880
and we can enjoy life

538
00:24:54,390 --> 00:24:51,840
you may not like what i say you may not

539
00:24:56,310 --> 00:24:54,400
agree with me all the time

540
00:24:57,990 --> 00:24:56,320
we all know that i'm the king of

541
00:25:00,070 --> 00:24:58,000
flip-flopping

542
00:25:01,909 --> 00:25:00,080
i changed my mind all day long i'm

543
00:25:04,230 --> 00:25:01,919
always expanding my brain and

544
00:25:05,510 --> 00:25:04,240
learning and that's the best part of

545
00:25:07,990 --> 00:25:05,520
life

546
00:25:09,990 --> 00:25:08,000
so welcome to my paradoxical my

547
00:25:12,549 --> 00:25:10,000
hypocritical world

548
00:25:14,630 --> 00:25:12,559
it's called fade to black for a reason

549
00:25:16,149 --> 00:25:14,640
and if you don't like it let me know

550
00:25:17,990 --> 00:25:16,159
i've always got the block button i've

551
00:25:19,750 --> 00:25:18,000
got a special mouse right here

552
00:25:21,510 --> 00:25:19,760
that is on top of the block button all

553
00:25:23,909 --> 00:25:21,520
the time i can just hit it boom done

554
00:25:25,510 --> 00:25:23,919
gone right it's right there it's got its

555
00:25:28,230 --> 00:25:25,520
very own mouse

556
00:25:29,510 --> 00:25:28,240
unless of course we are friends in the

557
00:25:31,909 --> 00:25:29,520
real world

558
00:25:33,510 --> 00:25:31,919
and then i'll just troll you for the

559
00:25:38,149 --> 00:25:33,520
rest of your life

560
00:25:42,630 --> 00:25:38,159
tempt me quote me dare me

561
00:25:46,710 --> 00:25:42,640
it's 20 21 who's next

562
00:25:49,190 --> 00:25:46,720
now for those of you who like to shout

563
00:25:50,470 --> 00:25:49,200
about the first amendment and who have

564
00:25:54,549 --> 00:25:50,480
probably never

565
00:25:57,990 --> 00:25:54,559
read these words before or heard them

566
00:26:00,149 --> 00:25:58,000
here it is congress

567
00:26:03,029 --> 00:26:00,159
shall make no law respecting an

568
00:26:05,830 --> 00:26:03,039
establishment of religion

569
00:26:06,789 --> 00:26:05,840
or prohibiting the free exercise of

570
00:26:09,990 --> 00:26:06,799
thereof

571
00:26:13,029 --> 00:26:10,000
or abridging the freedom of speech

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or of the press or the right of the

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people to peaceably

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assemble and to petition the government

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for a redress of grievances

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that's it full stop end quote

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that's it that is the entirety

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of the constitution's first amendment

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that's the whole thing

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it is the central tenet of our american

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way of life

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that gets dragged out every time

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someone's banned from

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twitter or gets a website taken down by

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service provider this is one of the

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biggest misconceptions people have about

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the first amendment

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the bottom line it protects

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you from the government punishing or

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censoring or oppressing your speech

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it doesn't apply to private

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organizations like twitter

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or facebook that's it

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nothing more case closed

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i'm your host jimmy church tonight greg

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house is here

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going to be talking about all of that

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the big tech drama

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that is taking over the world right now

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that's right greg house is here he we're

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going to set the record straight

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we're also going to talk about that

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parlor air quotes

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hack tomorrow night right here john

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greenwald we're going to be talking

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about again free speech the first

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amendment and of course private

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companies

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and the right to do what he is doing

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freedom of information act

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posting documents right there for you

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all of that and much more tomorrow night

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all right welcome back fade to black i'm

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yours jimmy church

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what an amazing week uh here on fade to

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black for sure

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uh and throughout this crazy week month

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and year

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it has been uh for the united states and

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the rest of the world

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and tomorrow night continuing this will

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be john greenwald of the black vault and

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his document dump that was

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all over all the major media outlets

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today uh

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he has released everything from the cia

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and it is all there for you to download

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you can go to the blackvault.com we've

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got the links up there

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in our twitter feed tonight is greg

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house greg house

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and we are going to discuss

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the big tech companies that are banning

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the current potus

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and the future of parlor now greg spent

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much of his teens and early 20s evading

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the fbi task force i

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love i love it every time i say this

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while helping to operate the internet's

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foremost software pirating rings and

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otherwise living a life

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of a criminal hacker in 2000 though it

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all caught up to him

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he was arrested the next seven years

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were spent in and out of court

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until he pled guilty to conspiracy to

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violate copyright laws in 2007.

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he was incarcerated federal pen

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including a 27 day stay

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in solitary that's right upon release he

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worked a series of computer-related jobs

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while continuing to participate in

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various online subcultures

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and soon after his key role in anonymous

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global protest campaign against the

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church of scientology was made public in

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2008

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00:35:08,150 --> 00:35:06,400
he began serving as a media interpreter

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and interview subject for newspapers

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00:35:11,430 --> 00:35:09,839
websites radio and television

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00:35:13,430 --> 00:35:11,440
he has appeared on countless news

784
00:35:16,790 --> 00:35:13,440
programs and quoted in publications

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00:35:17,750 --> 00:35:16,800
you know just today as yesterday uh i

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was reading a

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major article out there and there's greg

788
00:35:22,950 --> 00:35:21,520
he's quoted in there i talked to him

789
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about that today we'll get to that

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when we bring him on in just a second

791
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and meanwhile

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00:35:29,990 --> 00:35:28,320
he has continued to work with anonymous

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participants on various operations

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00:35:34,230 --> 00:35:32,400
offering advice and other forms of

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support when needed his website of

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course is greghouse.com

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he's now a major media celebrity and

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show host

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00:35:42,630 --> 00:35:41,200
i would like to welcome back to fade to

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black greg house

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00:35:46,390 --> 00:35:45,680
greg how are you man doing okay how

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00:35:50,230 --> 00:35:46,400
about you

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00:35:51,430 --> 00:35:50,240
i am fantastic and uh this is the thing

804
00:35:55,589 --> 00:35:51,440
greg

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i can see you our audience can't

806
00:36:01,030 --> 00:35:59,440
and you got the full-on hacker gear on

807
00:36:02,790 --> 00:36:01,040
uh you know there's there's a

808
00:36:03,349 --> 00:36:02,800
comfortable way to be sitting at a desk

809
00:36:06,870 --> 00:36:03,359
all day

810
00:36:08,630 --> 00:36:06,880
man um i remember you and i

811
00:36:10,710 --> 00:36:08,640
uh we're gonna move forward we've got

812
00:36:12,950 --> 00:36:10,720
way too much to talk about tonight but

813
00:36:15,430 --> 00:36:12,960
when you and i were in new york uh for

814
00:36:18,470 --> 00:36:15,440
the hackers on planet earth conference

815
00:36:20,230 --> 00:36:18,480
and i went into a seminar

816
00:36:22,069 --> 00:36:20,240
in the big room there the lights were

817
00:36:25,270 --> 00:36:22,079
down it was dark and

818
00:36:28,310 --> 00:36:25,280
and uh i'm not gonna say specifically

819
00:36:29,349 --> 00:36:28,320
what the presenter but he was giving

820
00:36:31,670 --> 00:36:29,359
instructions on

821
00:36:32,870 --> 00:36:31,680
how to do a specific type of hack right

822
00:36:35,190 --> 00:36:32,880
he was giving the code out

823
00:36:36,630 --> 00:36:35,200
and i was watching the audience they're

824
00:36:39,510 --> 00:36:36,640
all taking notes

825
00:36:39,990 --> 00:36:39,520
right but everybody was dressed like you

826
00:36:43,910 --> 00:36:40,000
are right

827
00:36:45,990 --> 00:36:43,920
now everybody had the hoodie on

828
00:36:47,990 --> 00:36:46,000
everybody was down and hunched over

829
00:36:49,990 --> 00:36:48,000
hiding their faces and

830
00:36:51,190 --> 00:36:50,000
i think you might have been with me uh

831
00:36:53,190 --> 00:36:51,200
during that moment

832
00:36:55,190 --> 00:36:53,200
uh when we were leaning against the wall

833
00:36:57,589 --> 00:36:55,200
right on the left side of the room

834
00:36:59,349 --> 00:36:57,599
that was one of the most intense i i

835
00:37:02,390 --> 00:36:59,359
took it all in man

836
00:37:03,109 --> 00:37:02,400
i could not believe how studious hackers

837
00:37:06,230 --> 00:37:03,119
are

838
00:37:07,990 --> 00:37:06,240
they they were paying attention man it

839
00:37:09,910 --> 00:37:08,000
was uh that was an intense thing that

840
00:37:11,190 --> 00:37:09,920
was an eye-opening experience uh the

841
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hope conference

842
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one week one week in the united states

843
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from january 5th until today

844
00:37:26,150 --> 00:37:25,200
did you ever anticipate anything like

845
00:37:28,150 --> 00:37:26,160
this to

846
00:37:30,230 --> 00:37:28,160
to go down did you see the writing on

847
00:37:33,510 --> 00:37:30,240
the wall

848
00:37:35,430 --> 00:37:33,520
um yes and no i mean i know that's a no

849
00:37:38,870 --> 00:37:35,440
answer but like

850
00:37:40,870 --> 00:37:38,880
we assumed if uh all of the alt-right

851
00:37:43,270 --> 00:37:40,880
proud boy style

852
00:37:45,670 --> 00:37:43,280
uh efforts weren't stopped and they

853
00:37:47,190 --> 00:37:45,680
weren't actually designated a

854
00:37:48,710 --> 00:37:47,200
domestic terrorist group and all the

855
00:37:50,069 --> 00:37:48,720
other things that we've been screaming

856
00:37:51,829 --> 00:37:50,079
for for years

857
00:37:53,430 --> 00:37:51,839
that we would end up here we just had

858
00:37:55,670 --> 00:37:53,440
hoped that um

859
00:37:56,710 --> 00:37:55,680
those actions would be taken and they

860
00:38:00,390 --> 00:37:56,720
would uh

861
00:38:02,550 --> 00:38:00,400
be stopped before we got here now um

862
00:38:04,550 --> 00:38:02,560
and of course q anon and all the other

863
00:38:07,030 --> 00:38:04,560
fun things related to all of this

864
00:38:09,430 --> 00:38:07,040
yes yes yes and uh we have to watch how

865
00:38:12,710 --> 00:38:09,440
many times we say that during the show

866
00:38:14,150 --> 00:38:12,720
you know we'll get scrubbed by youtube

867
00:38:15,349 --> 00:38:14,160
and the next thing you know

868
00:38:17,670 --> 00:38:15,359
they're gonna think that we're part of

869
00:38:20,390 --> 00:38:17,680
that group and that's that's another

870
00:38:22,069 --> 00:38:20,400
that is another part of something that i

871
00:38:25,670 --> 00:38:22,079
want to talk about tonight

872
00:38:26,310 --> 00:38:25,680
which is how even i have to self-censor

873
00:38:29,910 --> 00:38:26,320
now

874
00:38:31,349 --> 00:38:29,920
running and they they don't go and

875
00:38:33,030 --> 00:38:31,359
listen to the show

876
00:38:34,470 --> 00:38:33,040
and the next thing you know i get myself

877
00:38:36,069 --> 00:38:34,480
in trouble when

878
00:38:38,710 --> 00:38:36,079
i could be talking about the exact

879
00:38:40,390 --> 00:38:38,720
opposite and this has happened to a lot

880
00:38:43,589 --> 00:38:40,400
of innocent people out there

881
00:38:44,870 --> 00:38:43,599
today that have had counts accounts uh

882
00:38:46,710 --> 00:38:44,880
taken down

883
00:38:48,710 --> 00:38:46,720
and and removed when they didn't say

884
00:38:50,630 --> 00:38:48,720
anything at all right and

885
00:38:51,910 --> 00:38:50,640
that's a it's a dangerous zone that we

886
00:38:55,030 --> 00:38:51,920
find ourselves in

887
00:38:56,550 --> 00:38:55,040
isn't it i mean you know for the people

888
00:38:58,390 --> 00:38:56,560
who didn't do anything a lot of them are

889
00:39:00,390 --> 00:38:58,400
getting their accounts back like uh the

890
00:39:02,630 --> 00:39:00,400
q anon anonymous account uh that's the

891
00:39:05,510 --> 00:39:02,640
actual like full way you spell it out

892
00:39:06,870 --> 00:39:05,520
um on twitter uh was nuked in the big

893
00:39:09,670 --> 00:39:06,880
you know purge

894
00:39:10,790 --> 00:39:09,680
uh but they're actually an anti-q anon

895
00:39:13,430 --> 00:39:10,800
um

896
00:39:14,390 --> 00:39:13,440
podcast to work to discredit all of the

897
00:39:16,470 --> 00:39:14,400
lies

898
00:39:18,069 --> 00:39:16,480
and so like they shouldn't have been

899
00:39:19,750 --> 00:39:18,079
right uh they had their account back

900
00:39:20,390 --> 00:39:19,760
like six hours later and you know an

901
00:39:22,630 --> 00:39:20,400
apology

902
00:39:24,390 --> 00:39:22,640
uh that the people who kind of you know

903
00:39:26,870 --> 00:39:24,400
didn't are

904
00:39:28,630 --> 00:39:26,880
i think being dealt with fairly yeah

905
00:39:30,870 --> 00:39:28,640
back you know there's accidents you know

906
00:39:33,109 --> 00:39:30,880
they had to kill 70 000 accounts that's

907
00:39:34,390 --> 00:39:33,119
hard to do yeah that is that is and they

908
00:39:37,670 --> 00:39:34,400
saved me a lot of time too

909
00:39:41,430 --> 00:39:37,680
i don't know about you but but uh i lost

910
00:39:43,910 --> 00:39:41,440
5 000 followers in in the last 48 hours

911
00:39:46,150 --> 00:39:43,920
and i was surprised how many of those uh

912
00:39:48,950 --> 00:39:46,160
q anon people were following me i only

913
00:39:51,270 --> 00:39:48,960
lost i think like maybe 2500 or so but

914
00:39:52,069 --> 00:39:51,280
i was very rude to them pretty much

915
00:39:54,470 --> 00:39:52,079
non-stop

916
00:39:55,510 --> 00:39:54,480
uh so uh they didn't stick around with

917
00:39:58,069 --> 00:39:55,520
me too much

918
00:40:00,950 --> 00:39:58,079
yeah i i never talked about them at all

919
00:40:03,430 --> 00:40:00,960
i think i did one q and on show

920
00:40:04,710 --> 00:40:03,440
in the last i don't know two three years

921
00:40:08,150 --> 00:40:04,720
other than that

922
00:40:09,190 --> 00:40:08,160
it's it's really not my my wheelhouse if

923
00:40:12,630 --> 00:40:09,200
you will

924
00:40:14,710 --> 00:40:12,640
and you know because the show deals with

925
00:40:16,470 --> 00:40:14,720
conspiracies and everything else i guess

926
00:40:17,510 --> 00:40:16,480
that's why they were following me in

927
00:40:20,550 --> 00:40:17,520
mass

928
00:40:21,750 --> 00:40:20,560
um yeah yeah yeah it was crazy i i mean

929
00:40:23,349 --> 00:40:21,760
i just couldn't believe it was like what

930
00:40:27,750 --> 00:40:23,359
is going on

931
00:40:29,589 --> 00:40:27,760
and and at first i i looked at it as

932
00:40:31,349 --> 00:40:29,599
well there's this and there's this

933
00:40:32,390 --> 00:40:31,359
reason and this and maybe people just

934
00:40:33,750 --> 00:40:32,400
don't like me

935
00:40:35,270 --> 00:40:33,760
and that's what's going on and then i

936
00:40:36,630 --> 00:40:35,280
thought man there's something else going

937
00:40:39,030 --> 00:40:36,640
on

938
00:40:40,309 --> 00:40:39,040
it's it's too much you know it's three

939
00:40:42,309 --> 00:40:40,319
four five hundred an

940
00:40:44,710 --> 00:40:42,319
hour right yeah you've got the what did

941
00:40:48,470 --> 00:40:44,720
i say and then you start noticing

942
00:40:51,750 --> 00:40:50,950
welcome to the day that we live in well

943
00:40:55,349 --> 00:40:51,760
um

944
00:40:59,190 --> 00:40:55,359
i want to start with parlor

945
00:41:01,750 --> 00:40:59,200
now last year i had

946
00:41:02,470 --> 00:41:01,760
done maybe you read it you're a busy guy

947
00:41:05,510 --> 00:41:02,480
um but i

948
00:41:08,790 --> 00:41:05,520
i had wrote an article back in november

949
00:41:09,589 --> 00:41:08,800
of 20 uh 2020 uh about parlor its

950
00:41:11,270 --> 00:41:09,599
origins

951
00:41:12,950 --> 00:41:11,280
uh the ties going all the way back to

952
00:41:14,670 --> 00:41:12,960
cambridge analytica before that i went

953
00:41:17,829 --> 00:41:14,680
back to 2012

954
00:41:20,390 --> 00:41:17,839
2013 uh with all of this and

955
00:41:21,829 --> 00:41:20,400
and how it advanced through to where we

956
00:41:23,990 --> 00:41:21,839
are today

957
00:41:25,190 --> 00:41:24,000
and obviously parlor was still up and

958
00:41:26,710 --> 00:41:25,200
running back then

959
00:41:28,710 --> 00:41:26,720
but i said to everybody if you were

960
00:41:30,710 --> 00:41:28,720
outraged about cambridge analytica and

961
00:41:33,750 --> 00:41:30,720
you were outraged about data

962
00:41:34,550 --> 00:41:33,760
and mining and what went down with

963
00:41:38,069 --> 00:41:34,560
congress

964
00:41:39,750 --> 00:41:38,079
and and zuckerberg getting grilled uh

965
00:41:41,190 --> 00:41:39,760
by the united states government about

966
00:41:43,349 --> 00:41:41,200
all of these issues and cambridge

967
00:41:46,069 --> 00:41:43,359
analytica and the outrage that was there

968
00:41:46,550 --> 00:41:46,079
then how do you feel today about parlor

969
00:41:50,550 --> 00:41:46,560
and i

970
00:41:53,990 --> 00:41:50,560
outlined everything for them uh there

971
00:41:57,270 --> 00:41:54,000
and i i never felt right about it

972
00:41:59,750 --> 00:41:57,280
um but nonetheless i threw it out there

973
00:42:01,349 --> 00:41:59,760
just so there could be a certain level

974
00:42:03,750 --> 00:42:01,359
of public awareness

975
00:42:05,270 --> 00:42:03,760
because in the future could i say i told

976
00:42:09,430 --> 00:42:05,280
you so i don't i don't want to go

977
00:42:13,030 --> 00:42:09,440
there but um wow

978
00:42:16,150 --> 00:42:13,040
right uh now not only are they gone

979
00:42:18,790 --> 00:42:16,160
but their data is now on hundreds of

980
00:42:22,550 --> 00:42:18,800
hard drives around the world

981
00:42:25,349 --> 00:42:22,560
i mean it's a lot of data

982
00:42:26,710 --> 00:42:25,359
um we're talking terabytes and terabytes

983
00:42:30,309 --> 00:42:26,720
of data so uh

984
00:42:33,270 --> 00:42:30,319
only a few people have full copies yet

985
00:42:34,470 --> 00:42:33,280
77 some are saying 70 terabytes i think

986
00:42:36,630 --> 00:42:34,480
that's the latest

987
00:42:37,589 --> 00:42:36,640
it's 70 terabytes with the 1.1 million

988
00:42:41,109 --> 00:42:37,599
video files

989
00:42:42,069 --> 00:42:41,119
yeah uh with gps locations and longitude

990
00:42:43,990 --> 00:42:42,079
and latitude

991
00:42:45,270 --> 00:42:44,000
we'll get to all of that in a second

992
00:42:48,309 --> 00:42:45,280
absolutely now

993
00:42:51,430 --> 00:42:48,319
it was in the media as

994
00:42:51,990 --> 00:42:51,440
a hack i'm doing air quotes for the

995
00:42:53,670 --> 00:42:52,000
camera

996
00:42:56,150 --> 00:42:53,680
um and when i talked about this

997
00:42:57,510 --> 00:42:56,160
yesterday i did it as deep as i could

998
00:43:00,069 --> 00:42:57,520
and that's when i started to see your

999
00:43:00,870 --> 00:43:00,079
name quoted um in in the media about

1000
00:43:02,710 --> 00:43:00,880
this

1001
00:43:04,309 --> 00:43:02,720
um and you were already booked for the

1002
00:43:07,190 --> 00:43:04,319
show too that's the crazy part

1003
00:43:07,910 --> 00:43:07,200
you just never forget yeah one time but

1004
00:43:10,309 --> 00:43:07,920
um

1005
00:43:11,030 --> 00:43:10,319
uh yeah when you and i were talking last

1006
00:43:13,190 --> 00:43:11,040
week

1007
00:43:14,550 --> 00:43:13,200
this hadn't happened yet so anyway let's

1008
00:43:18,069 --> 00:43:14,560
move forward

1009
00:43:19,349 --> 00:43:18,079
the uh uh it was presented in the media

1010
00:43:22,470 --> 00:43:19,359
as a hack

1011
00:43:24,309 --> 00:43:22,480
as i started to get into this uh and i

1012
00:43:27,829 --> 00:43:24,319
said this yesterday everybody

1013
00:43:31,510 --> 00:43:27,839
hack is the wrong word am i out of line

1014
00:43:31,910 --> 00:43:31,520
and saying it that way no it wasn't the

1015
00:43:35,109 --> 00:43:31,920
hack

1016
00:43:35,670 --> 00:43:35,119
um you know what's funny is you said you

1017
00:43:37,190 --> 00:43:35,680
know

1018
00:43:39,589 --> 00:43:37,200
when we talked a week ago this hadn't

1019
00:43:43,030 --> 00:43:39,599
happened yet but it was in the motions

1020
00:43:45,190 --> 00:43:43,040
yes yes by a week ago i already had 4.4

1021
00:43:47,910 --> 00:43:45,200
million uh parlor profiles backed up

1022
00:43:49,349 --> 00:43:47,920
uh locally here on my hard drives and

1023
00:43:51,990 --> 00:43:49,359
was going for the rest of them

1024
00:43:52,550 --> 00:43:52,000
with my scripts now can you legally

1025
00:43:54,870 --> 00:43:52,560
happen

1026
00:43:56,550 --> 00:43:54,880
just not publicly can you legally say

1027
00:43:59,030 --> 00:43:56,560
this on the air

1028
00:44:00,309 --> 00:43:59,040
yeah because the way the cfa works is uh

1029
00:44:02,390 --> 00:44:00,319
you have to actually bypass

1030
00:44:04,390 --> 00:44:02,400
authentication to trigger it first um

1031
00:44:07,030 --> 00:44:04,400
and i bypassed nothing

1032
00:44:08,309 --> 00:44:07,040
in fact i used open api endpoints that

1033
00:44:10,710 --> 00:44:08,319
anyone can access

1034
00:44:11,589 --> 00:44:10,720
with no password no username no

1035
00:44:13,190 --> 00:44:11,599
encryption

1036
00:44:14,870 --> 00:44:13,200
no nothing to start downloading all of

1037
00:44:16,950 --> 00:44:14,880
this um

1038
00:44:18,950 --> 00:44:16,960
they architected their entire system

1039
00:44:22,150 --> 00:44:18,960
completely wide open

1040
00:44:22,950 --> 00:44:22,160
and then on the most data intensive data

1041
00:44:25,190 --> 00:44:22,960
mining

1042
00:44:27,109 --> 00:44:25,200
we steal every bit of telemetry platform

1043
00:44:29,589 --> 00:44:27,119
you can on aws

1044
00:44:31,349 --> 00:44:29,599
uh so like every time you sneezed while

1045
00:44:33,109 --> 00:44:31,359
you were on parlor aws probably knew

1046
00:44:34,470 --> 00:44:33,119
about it and logged it and then attached

1047
00:44:36,470 --> 00:44:34,480
it to your prime account

1048
00:44:37,589 --> 00:44:36,480
now for everybody out there aws is

1049
00:44:40,710 --> 00:44:37,599
amazon web

1050
00:44:43,190 --> 00:44:40,720
services okay so we'll be you know

1051
00:44:46,630 --> 00:44:43,200
talking about aws a lot tonight

1052
00:44:48,230 --> 00:44:46,640
um okay i can explain to people

1053
00:44:50,309 --> 00:44:48,240
and i'll try and keep it as simple as

1054
00:44:52,950 --> 00:44:50,319
possible but it's a little complicated

1055
00:44:54,230 --> 00:44:52,960
it is um when you when you're talking

1056
00:44:56,230 --> 00:44:54,240
about a hack what you're normally

1057
00:44:58,470 --> 00:44:56,240
talking about is you somehow

1058
00:44:59,829 --> 00:44:58,480
bypassed your way into a place you

1059
00:45:02,309 --> 00:44:59,839
weren't supposed to be

1060
00:45:03,990 --> 00:45:02,319
and that bypass is critical for the

1061
00:45:06,150 --> 00:45:04,000
various laws that uh

1062
00:45:08,230 --> 00:45:06,160
that are used against hackers uh like

1063
00:45:11,430 --> 00:45:08,240
the computer fraud and abuse act

1064
00:45:13,030 --> 00:45:11,440
uh one of the major triggers is the the

1065
00:45:15,349 --> 00:45:13,040
thing that you're accessing

1066
00:45:16,710 --> 00:45:15,359
has to have been unaccessible to the

1067
00:45:20,230 --> 00:45:16,720
general public

1068
00:45:22,309 --> 00:45:20,240
and or

1069
00:45:24,230 --> 00:45:22,319
uh behind a username and password that

1070
00:45:26,710 --> 00:45:24,240
you weren't supposed to have

1071
00:45:28,790 --> 00:45:26,720
so you know there's a lot of pieces to

1072
00:45:31,430 --> 00:45:28,800
it but those are the basics right

1073
00:45:33,349 --> 00:45:31,440
the way parlor built their website is is

1074
00:45:35,430 --> 00:45:33,359
a slightly modern way

1075
00:45:37,910 --> 00:45:35,440
but it's the seven-year-old version of

1076
00:45:40,390 --> 00:45:37,920
that slightly modern way

1077
00:45:42,230 --> 00:45:40,400
and so they built out on a piece of

1078
00:45:44,870 --> 00:45:42,240
software called angular

1079
00:45:45,990 --> 00:45:44,880
and what angular does is instead of

1080
00:45:47,990 --> 00:45:46,000
building the website

1081
00:45:49,829 --> 00:45:48,000
that you're going to see when you load

1082
00:45:52,790 --> 00:45:49,839
up parlor.com

1083
00:45:54,950 --> 00:45:52,800
on their end and then sending it to you

1084
00:45:56,829 --> 00:45:54,960
they send you a bunch of code and your

1085
00:45:59,589 --> 00:45:56,839
web browser

1086
00:46:01,190 --> 00:45:59,599
asksparlor.com for the logo and then

1087
00:46:03,109 --> 00:46:01,200
asks it a second time

1088
00:46:04,309 --> 00:46:03,119
for your username and so it makes all

1089
00:46:06,870 --> 00:46:04,319
these little requests

1090
00:46:07,750 --> 00:46:06,880
as it's loading the page instead of

1091
00:46:09,190 --> 00:46:07,760
their end

1092
00:46:11,190 --> 00:46:09,200
generating and sending you something

1093
00:46:14,870 --> 00:46:11,200
more static right right

1094
00:46:17,990 --> 00:46:14,880
and so all those little pieces of code

1095
00:46:19,270 --> 00:46:18,000
that were asking parlor.com for things

1096
00:46:21,510 --> 00:46:19,280
like your username

1097
00:46:22,710 --> 00:46:21,520
like your graphic like your bio like

1098
00:46:25,270 --> 00:46:22,720
your latest uh

1099
00:46:25,990 --> 00:46:25,280
parlays you know their version of tweets

1100
00:46:28,230 --> 00:46:26,000
um

1101
00:46:29,589 --> 00:46:28,240
were wide open to anyone who was logged

1102
00:46:32,630 --> 00:46:29,599
in so if you

1103
00:46:34,150 --> 00:46:32,640
just looked at the code of that was

1104
00:46:34,550 --> 00:46:34,160
loaded in your web browser which of

1105
00:46:36,150 --> 00:46:34,560
course

1106
00:46:37,910 --> 00:46:36,160
has to be on your computer so your web

1107
00:46:40,150 --> 00:46:37,920
browser can run it

1108
00:46:41,109 --> 00:46:40,160
uh you could see the end points that it

1109
00:46:42,630 --> 00:46:41,119
was accessing

1110
00:46:44,550 --> 00:46:42,640
and then access them yourself and then

1111
00:46:46,309 --> 00:46:44,560
just change the user id

1112
00:46:47,910 --> 00:46:46,319
to someone else's user id and download

1113
00:46:49,030 --> 00:46:47,920
their photo which was fine because

1114
00:46:51,109 --> 00:46:49,040
you're supposed to be able to do that

1115
00:46:52,950 --> 00:46:51,119
when you view their um

1116
00:46:54,230 --> 00:46:52,960
their profile right so you can see it

1117
00:46:56,870 --> 00:46:54,240
right right right

1118
00:46:57,990 --> 00:46:56,880
but every id on this system is

1119
00:46:59,750 --> 00:46:58,000
sequential

1120
00:47:01,510 --> 00:46:59,760
so once you could find a really really

1121
00:47:02,950 --> 00:47:01,520
old one you could just start counting up

1122
00:47:04,630 --> 00:47:02,960
just add one to the end and keep

1123
00:47:07,030 --> 00:47:04,640
grabbing all of the photos

1124
00:47:08,230 --> 00:47:07,040
then all of their bios then all of their

1125
00:47:11,430 --> 00:47:08,240
videos

1126
00:47:11,670 --> 00:47:11,440
and so people started doing that which

1127
00:47:13,510 --> 00:47:11,680
is

1128
00:47:14,790 --> 00:47:13,520
horrible there was no rate limiting

1129
00:47:17,270 --> 00:47:14,800
blocking them

1130
00:47:19,109 --> 00:47:17,280
the only rate limiting that was found by

1131
00:47:20,870 --> 00:47:19,119
the people looking at this was they had

1132
00:47:23,109 --> 00:47:20,880
rate limited how many people you could

1133
00:47:26,790 --> 00:47:23,119
follow and unfollow during the day

1134
00:47:29,030 --> 00:47:26,800
but they like you could grab the list of

1135
00:47:29,990 --> 00:47:29,040
users that say your user account

1136
00:47:31,990 --> 00:47:30,000
followed

1137
00:47:33,750 --> 00:47:32,000
i could grab that for four million

1138
00:47:34,870 --> 00:47:33,760
people in one day and their server would

1139
00:47:37,990 --> 00:47:34,880
keep responding

1140
00:47:39,910 --> 00:47:38,000
no rate limiting of any kind um

1141
00:47:42,069 --> 00:47:39,920
so you could just download all of their

1142
00:47:43,910 --> 00:47:42,079
data with no passwords no usernames no

1143
00:47:46,630 --> 00:47:43,920
logging in

1144
00:47:49,589 --> 00:47:46,640
and then someone got creative and they

1145
00:47:51,430 --> 00:47:49,599
loaded up the parlor app on their phone

1146
00:47:53,510 --> 00:47:51,440
and since it was on their local network

1147
00:47:55,589 --> 00:47:53,520
connected to their wireless

1148
00:47:57,349 --> 00:47:55,599
they could see the traffic going between

1149
00:47:59,270 --> 00:47:57,359
the app and the outside world which

1150
00:48:01,030 --> 00:47:59,280
would get to parlor.com

1151
00:48:03,589 --> 00:48:01,040
and they saw that it was accessing a

1152
00:48:05,589 --> 00:48:03,599
couple different endpoints

1153
00:48:07,190 --> 00:48:05,599
and they were slightly different than

1154
00:48:08,390 --> 00:48:07,200
the ones that your normal web browser

1155
00:48:10,150 --> 00:48:08,400
would access

1156
00:48:12,390 --> 00:48:10,160
so so far still pretty simple right the

1157
00:48:13,510 --> 00:48:12,400
app just has a different way to grab

1158
00:48:16,710 --> 00:48:13,520
that data

1159
00:48:18,790 --> 00:48:16,720
but here's where it got tricky

1160
00:48:19,990 --> 00:48:18,800
because with the web ones that are just

1161
00:48:22,549 --> 00:48:20,000
showing like the list of

1162
00:48:24,150 --> 00:48:22,559
parlays like the list of tweets you know

1163
00:48:26,150 --> 00:48:24,160
um it's got to show you the

1164
00:48:27,190 --> 00:48:26,160
processed video meaning the stuff that's

1165
00:48:29,589 --> 00:48:27,200
been

1166
00:48:30,630 --> 00:48:29,599
compiled down shrunk all the data has

1167
00:48:32,870 --> 00:48:30,640
been stripped like the

1168
00:48:35,750 --> 00:48:32,880
the metadata like the location data

1169
00:48:37,510 --> 00:48:35,760
right um or on the photos like you know

1170
00:48:38,870 --> 00:48:37,520
your location data and the name of your

1171
00:48:40,150 --> 00:48:38,880
camera and stuff like that that is

1172
00:48:42,150 --> 00:48:40,160
attached to every photo

1173
00:48:43,510 --> 00:48:42,160
right um you know all of that gets

1174
00:48:45,349 --> 00:48:43,520
stripped on the one that you see in the

1175
00:48:48,790 --> 00:48:45,359
normal web interface

1176
00:48:50,230 --> 00:48:48,800
but the app was showing us a a thing

1177
00:48:52,230 --> 00:48:50,240
that we could access

1178
00:48:53,589 --> 00:48:52,240
that would instead of giving us the

1179
00:48:55,510 --> 00:48:53,599
stripped version

1180
00:48:57,109 --> 00:48:55,520
it would give us the original version

1181
00:48:58,710 --> 00:48:57,119
that the user had uploaded

1182
00:49:00,630 --> 00:48:58,720
which they still had stored for some

1183
00:49:01,990 --> 00:49:00,640
reason and it would just download it

1184
00:49:03,990 --> 00:49:02,000
again with no username

1185
00:49:05,109 --> 00:49:04,000
no password no authentication of any

1186
00:49:08,309 --> 00:49:05,119
kind and

1187
00:49:09,670 --> 00:49:08,319
again the ids were sequential so start

1188
00:49:11,430 --> 00:49:09,680
from one and go up until you hit the

1189
00:49:14,549 --> 00:49:11,440
first one and just keep going

1190
00:49:16,630 --> 00:49:14,559
and you download uh 1.1 million videos

1191
00:49:18,710 --> 00:49:16,640
that have all of the metadata still

1192
00:49:20,470 --> 00:49:18,720
no hacking was involved it was literally

1193
00:49:23,190 --> 00:49:20,480
just writing little code

1194
00:49:24,069 --> 00:49:23,200
loops that would add one to the end of a

1195
00:49:25,990 --> 00:49:24,079
url

1196
00:49:27,349 --> 00:49:26,000
and then download and then add one and

1197
00:49:28,790 --> 00:49:27,359
then download

1198
00:49:30,549 --> 00:49:28,800
i mean you could have done it in the web

1199
00:49:32,069 --> 00:49:30,559
browser typing if you had the time to

1200
00:49:35,109 --> 00:49:32,079
type a million times

1201
00:49:37,270 --> 00:49:35,119
it sounds almost it's like monty python

1202
00:49:39,589 --> 00:49:37,280
meets spinal tap

1203
00:49:40,870 --> 00:49:39,599
yeah you know what i mean this is almost

1204
00:49:44,150 --> 00:49:40,880
comical

1205
00:49:45,829 --> 00:49:44,160
and so okay this weird spot you know

1206
00:49:47,270 --> 00:49:45,839
everyone knows i'm a lefty right i mean

1207
00:49:49,190 --> 00:49:47,280
everyone knows this about me it's not

1208
00:49:51,430 --> 00:49:49,200
it's not hidden uh i'm i'm very

1209
00:49:53,270 --> 00:49:51,440
out lefty but at the same time i was

1210
00:49:55,109 --> 00:49:53,280
actually on parlor they verified me

1211
00:49:57,190 --> 00:49:55,119
they asked me to come over and join i

1212
00:49:59,190 --> 00:49:57,200
was going to go on john matsey's uh

1213
00:50:01,030 --> 00:49:59,200
podcast next week but now he's a little

1214
00:50:04,549 --> 00:50:01,040
busy um

1215
00:50:05,270 --> 00:50:04,559
you know um and uh so we'll see how that

1216
00:50:07,190 --> 00:50:05,280
goes

1217
00:50:09,190 --> 00:50:07,200
you might also be mad at some of my

1218
00:50:10,470 --> 00:50:09,200
friends so maybe we don't go on i don't

1219
00:50:12,630 --> 00:50:10,480
know we'll see

1220
00:50:14,390 --> 00:50:12,640
but but i'm a far lefty but here i am

1221
00:50:14,710 --> 00:50:14,400
i'm going to say something to the users

1222
00:50:17,670 --> 00:50:14,720
that

1223
00:50:19,750 --> 00:50:17,680
most of my lefty friends won't admit to

1224
00:50:21,589 --> 00:50:19,760
remember back for any of you who are

1225
00:50:23,510 --> 00:50:21,599
old enough to remember back and i know

1226
00:50:25,270 --> 00:50:23,520
it's not that long ago but you might

1227
00:50:26,309 --> 00:50:25,280
have some 20 year old who was eight when

1228
00:50:29,030 --> 00:50:26,319
this happened

1229
00:50:30,069 --> 00:50:29,040
remember back to twitter twitter came

1230
00:50:34,150 --> 00:50:30,079
out in nowhere

1231
00:50:37,190 --> 00:50:34,160
at south by southwest in 07 and 08

1232
00:50:39,510 --> 00:50:37,200
and it just exploded on the scene and

1233
00:50:40,470 --> 00:50:39,520
for the next five years all the way up

1234
00:50:43,589 --> 00:50:40,480
until like late

1235
00:50:43,910 --> 00:50:43,599
2013 what did me and you see jimmy every

1236
00:50:45,750 --> 00:50:43,920
day

1237
00:50:47,430 --> 00:50:45,760
do you remember the fail whale yes do

1238
00:50:50,390 --> 00:50:47,440
you remember the fail whale

1239
00:50:52,069 --> 00:50:50,400
every user of twitter in the first five

1240
00:50:52,870 --> 00:50:52,079
years of its existence saw the fail

1241
00:50:54,069 --> 00:50:52,880
whale

1242
00:50:56,309 --> 00:50:54,079
because they had built out on a

1243
00:50:57,750 --> 00:50:56,319
technology that really didn't scale well

1244
00:51:00,150 --> 00:50:57,760
now they didn't realize this kind of

1245
00:51:00,549 --> 00:51:00,160
user growth was coming so they did the

1246
00:51:02,150 --> 00:51:00,559
work

1247
00:51:03,910 --> 00:51:02,160
and you know by the end of 2013

1248
00:51:04,790 --> 00:51:03,920
beginning of 2014 the feo well kind of

1249
00:51:06,710 --> 00:51:04,800
disappeared

1250
00:51:08,309 --> 00:51:06,720
i haven't seen it you know eight years

1251
00:51:11,030 --> 00:51:08,319
right yeah it's been a while so

1252
00:51:11,510 --> 00:51:11,040
so when you look at parlor like its

1253
00:51:14,390 --> 00:51:11,520
first

1254
00:51:16,390 --> 00:51:14,400
real public heavy use started in uh

1255
00:51:19,510 --> 00:51:16,400
early to mid 2018.

1256
00:51:20,950 --> 00:51:19,520
that's only two years now you can argue

1257
00:51:22,150 --> 00:51:20,960
that it takes a while to get this kind

1258
00:51:25,349 --> 00:51:22,160
of scale right

1259
00:51:28,549 --> 00:51:25,359
but you can also argue that facebook

1260
00:51:29,349 --> 00:51:28,559
instagram pinterest and uh even back to

1261
00:51:31,990 --> 00:51:29,359
myspace

1262
00:51:34,309 --> 00:51:32,000
and twitter of course have all done it

1263
00:51:36,950 --> 00:51:34,319
and what's been cool about them doing it

1264
00:51:37,670 --> 00:51:36,960
not people like zuckerberg who i am not

1265
00:51:39,190 --> 00:51:37,680
a fan of

1266
00:51:40,630 --> 00:51:39,200
but what's been cool about them doing it

1267
00:51:42,470 --> 00:51:40,640
is those companies have allowed their

1268
00:51:44,470 --> 00:51:42,480
engineers to write books

1269
00:51:46,390 --> 00:51:44,480
about how you scale they have released

1270
00:51:47,349 --> 00:51:46,400
open source tool chains that allow you

1271
00:51:50,150 --> 00:51:47,359
to scale

1272
00:51:51,750 --> 00:51:50,160
so if parlor had just used what we now

1273
00:51:54,630 --> 00:51:51,760
call in the programming world

1274
00:51:55,750 --> 00:51:54,640
the patterns the patterns that we know

1275
00:51:56,710 --> 00:51:55,760
scale well

1276
00:51:58,790 --> 00:51:56,720
then they wouldn't have had these

1277
00:52:01,510 --> 00:51:58,800
problems because these are now solved

1278
00:52:02,390 --> 00:52:01,520
things and they had the mercers backing

1279
00:52:04,710 --> 00:52:02,400
them so

1280
00:52:06,950 --> 00:52:04,720
the budget was quite large they could

1281
00:52:08,950 --> 00:52:06,960
have had they could have hired the team

1282
00:52:11,109 --> 00:52:08,960
a team of correct coders and team

1283
00:52:12,870 --> 00:52:11,119
leaders to facilitate

1284
00:52:14,309 --> 00:52:12,880
all of this with the right knowledge on

1285
00:52:16,829 --> 00:52:14,319
how to scale

1286
00:52:17,990 --> 00:52:16,839
i i it blows my mind that these

1287
00:52:21,510 --> 00:52:18,000
weaknesses

1288
00:52:24,470 --> 00:52:21,520
um and the simple side of a parlor was

1289
00:52:25,030 --> 00:52:24,480
allowed to continue to exist including

1290
00:52:28,470 --> 00:52:25,040
uh

1291
00:52:29,750 --> 00:52:28,480
the octa interface to verify and create

1292
00:52:33,030 --> 00:52:29,760
user accounts

1293
00:52:33,670 --> 00:52:33,040
octa and twilio were funny when uh when

1294
00:52:37,910 --> 00:52:33,680
they both

1295
00:52:40,950 --> 00:52:37,920
were pulled that night um they um

1296
00:52:44,150 --> 00:52:40,960
the way parlor verifies everything

1297
00:52:45,829 --> 00:52:44,160
went to default true meaning when i

1298
00:52:46,630 --> 00:52:45,839
tried to log in as you and it wanted the

1299
00:52:48,390 --> 00:52:46,640
two-factor

1300
00:52:50,069 --> 00:52:48,400
verification that i was you that it

1301
00:52:52,790 --> 00:52:50,079
would text to your phone

1302
00:52:55,589 --> 00:52:52,800
and the service provider that parlor

1303
00:52:57,510 --> 00:52:55,599
used to provide that text messaging

1304
00:52:58,630 --> 00:52:57,520
uh failed them because it had been

1305
00:53:01,190 --> 00:52:58,640
turned off

1306
00:53:01,829 --> 00:53:01,200
uh parlor just said ah failure i'm gonna

1307
00:53:04,630 --> 00:53:01,839
let you in

1308
00:53:05,990 --> 00:53:04,640
i'm gonna assume true that is the wrong

1309
00:53:09,109 --> 00:53:06,000
way to fail there

1310
00:53:10,309 --> 00:53:09,119
you you assume false there um and you

1311
00:53:12,069 --> 00:53:10,319
throw up an error

1312
00:53:13,910 --> 00:53:12,079
and then you also have it automatically

1313
00:53:14,309 --> 00:53:13,920
send an email over to your engineers

1314
00:53:17,349 --> 00:53:14,319
saying

1315
00:53:18,549 --> 00:53:17,359
uh holy crap guys you don't just fail

1316
00:53:21,349 --> 00:53:18,559
true and let people in

1317
00:53:23,349 --> 00:53:21,359
i mean i watched people log in as all

1318
00:53:26,630 --> 00:53:23,359
kinds of random users

1319
00:53:28,790 --> 00:53:26,640
uh because the fail true now um and

1320
00:53:30,230 --> 00:53:28,800
we're gonna be headed into a break here

1321
00:53:33,109 --> 00:53:30,240
um i

1322
00:53:34,950 --> 00:53:33,119
in in my deep dive uh yesterday in

1323
00:53:37,589 --> 00:53:34,960
researching all of this

1324
00:53:38,790 --> 00:53:37,599
one of the comments that i read over and

1325
00:53:41,990 --> 00:53:38,800
over again

1326
00:53:45,190 --> 00:53:42,000
um was that it wasn't

1327
00:53:47,990 --> 00:53:45,200
at all a hack that there were open

1328
00:53:49,270 --> 00:53:48,000
doors on the back end on the front end

1329
00:53:52,710 --> 00:53:49,280
all you had to do

1330
00:53:55,109 --> 00:53:52,720
was have the time to go and open one

1331
00:53:56,390 --> 00:53:55,119
it was there were tools on github.com

1332
00:53:57,589 --> 00:53:56,400
that you could literally download one of

1333
00:53:59,030 --> 00:53:57,599
them is called parlance that just

1334
00:54:01,030 --> 00:53:59,040
connected up to the api

1335
00:54:02,710 --> 00:54:01,040
like it was the web front end you just

1336
00:54:04,470 --> 00:54:02,720
go download it still uh just if you want

1337
00:54:06,309 --> 00:54:04,480
to look at it it's just python code

1338
00:54:08,549 --> 00:54:06,319
that would that would connect up and do

1339
00:54:10,549 --> 00:54:08,559
mass things on their api just like the

1340
00:54:12,549 --> 00:54:10,559
front end would um

1341
00:54:14,870 --> 00:54:12,559
and it's just that's totally legit legal

1342
00:54:17,910 --> 00:54:14,880
code there's nothing wrong with it

1343
00:54:20,230 --> 00:54:17,920
now is is uh you know when you have 70

1344
00:54:23,190 --> 00:54:20,240
terabytes of data which

1345
00:54:25,829 --> 00:54:23,200
some are saying you would know this but

1346
00:54:27,589 --> 00:54:25,839
it is nearly in totality

1347
00:54:29,829 --> 00:54:27,599
everything parlor it's everything that

1348
00:54:31,510 --> 00:54:29,839
was deleted it was private messaging it

1349
00:54:33,510 --> 00:54:31,520
was anything else that they consider

1350
00:54:36,549 --> 00:54:33,520
private any communication anything at

1351
00:54:40,150 --> 00:54:36,559
all everything in its entirety now

1352
00:54:42,069 --> 00:54:40,160
has has been copied so most of that is

1353
00:54:43,990 --> 00:54:42,079
what came out through the reddit thread

1354
00:54:48,230 --> 00:54:44,000
where someone was claiming to have

1355
00:54:51,270 --> 00:54:48,240
more knowledge and most of that is

1356
00:54:54,470 --> 00:54:51,280
is halfway true so

1357
00:54:57,030 --> 00:54:54,480
what what is had is um all

1358
00:54:58,789 --> 00:54:57,040
of the videos in their original form

1359
00:55:00,549 --> 00:54:58,799
that were ever uploaded to it meaning

1360
00:55:02,470 --> 00:55:00,559
whatever metadata was on that video

1361
00:55:04,870 --> 00:55:02,480
before you upload it is saved

1362
00:55:06,230 --> 00:55:04,880
so you know latitude longitude for a

1363
00:55:08,549 --> 00:55:06,240
location uh

1364
00:55:10,470 --> 00:55:08,559
name uh if like you if you used you know

1365
00:55:12,150 --> 00:55:10,480
final cut pro or imovie or

1366
00:55:13,990 --> 00:55:12,160
or windows movie maker you know it'll

1367
00:55:15,349 --> 00:55:14,000
put your name in the metadata of the

1368
00:55:16,870 --> 00:55:15,359
video whatever username

1369
00:55:18,950 --> 00:55:16,880
you were signed into your computer with

1370
00:55:19,990 --> 00:55:18,960
when you made the video and so all of

1371
00:55:22,549 --> 00:55:20,000
that is on those video files

1372
00:55:23,349 --> 00:55:22,559
so there's 1.1 million files the next

1373
00:55:26,549 --> 00:55:23,359
thing

1374
00:55:27,589 --> 00:55:26,559
every parlay that was sent uh so these

1375
00:55:30,069 --> 00:55:27,599
are the public

1376
00:55:30,710 --> 00:55:30,079
you posted this you might have deleted

1377
00:55:32,549 --> 00:55:30,720
it but

1378
00:55:33,990 --> 00:55:32,559
nothing's deleted in their database it's

1379
00:55:35,990 --> 00:55:34,000
just marked as deleted with

1380
00:55:37,589 --> 00:55:36,000
a little flag you can still download it

1381
00:55:39,990 --> 00:55:37,599
if you just hit the api for it

1382
00:55:40,710 --> 00:55:40,000
the api didn't stop you from downloading

1383
00:55:44,150 --> 00:55:40,720
what we call

1384
00:55:47,190 --> 00:55:44,160
soft deleted messages um

1385
00:55:50,069 --> 00:55:47,200
you know and so no private

1386
00:55:50,470 --> 00:55:50,079
messages are in that data set no none of

1387
00:55:52,950 --> 00:55:50,480
the

1388
00:55:54,230 --> 00:55:52,960
photo ids that people uploaded to verify

1389
00:55:55,589 --> 00:55:54,240
are in this data set that was

1390
00:55:58,069 --> 00:55:55,599
downloadable

1391
00:55:59,030 --> 00:55:58,079
um the passwords were not in this data

1392
00:56:01,109 --> 00:55:59,040
set um

1393
00:56:02,150 --> 00:56:01,119
it's literally anything you posted

1394
00:56:04,630 --> 00:56:02,160
publicly

1395
00:56:05,589 --> 00:56:04,640
even if you deleted it and the more

1396
00:56:07,430 --> 00:56:05,599
problematic is

1397
00:56:09,270 --> 00:56:07,440
it's not the thing that ended up showing

1398
00:56:10,390 --> 00:56:09,280
up publicly but it's your original

1399
00:56:12,309 --> 00:56:10,400
uploaded file

1400
00:56:13,910 --> 00:56:12,319
now what's metadata what's going to

1401
00:56:15,190 --> 00:56:13,920
happen with and we'll talk about this

1402
00:56:19,030 --> 00:56:15,200
more after the break

1403
00:56:21,910 --> 00:56:19,040
in depth um because octa

1404
00:56:23,910 --> 00:56:21,920
you needed to have access to their

1405
00:56:26,789 --> 00:56:23,920
servers for the database to run

1406
00:56:28,549 --> 00:56:26,799
correctly uh when creating new user

1407
00:56:31,829 --> 00:56:28,559
accounts and verifying their

1408
00:56:36,230 --> 00:56:31,839
data if octa now

1409
00:56:38,870 --> 00:56:36,240
is not in play do they still have

1410
00:56:39,670 --> 00:56:38,880
access to the original database of users

1411
00:56:41,750 --> 00:56:39,680
and can

1412
00:56:44,309 --> 00:56:41,760
it work correctly or does that have to

1413
00:56:46,710 --> 00:56:44,319
be built from the ground up once again

1414
00:56:48,230 --> 00:56:46,720
so they still have the users uh in in

1415
00:56:49,829 --> 00:56:48,240
their database they have your usernames

1416
00:56:51,990 --> 00:56:49,839
they have your email addresses they have

1417
00:56:53,990 --> 00:56:52,000
all of that like um

1418
00:56:55,430 --> 00:56:54,000
the uh even the people who downloaded

1419
00:56:56,630 --> 00:56:55,440
the data they downloaded don't have the

1420
00:56:58,789 --> 00:56:56,640
email addresses like

1421
00:57:00,150 --> 00:56:58,799
none of that was in that that data set

1422
00:57:00,950 --> 00:57:00,160
that was grabbed it was literally

1423
00:57:02,950 --> 00:57:00,960
whatever you

1424
00:57:04,470 --> 00:57:02,960
i mean if you had sent out a parlay with

1425
00:57:06,230 --> 00:57:04,480
your email in it then sure

1426
00:57:08,390 --> 00:57:06,240
but any of you like your your private

1427
00:57:11,109 --> 00:57:08,400
profile data that was just shared for

1428
00:57:12,710 --> 00:57:11,119
communication with parlor only uh isn't

1429
00:57:14,069 --> 00:57:12,720
in the data set that was downloaded

1430
00:57:15,270 --> 00:57:14,079
because again there was no hack it was

1431
00:57:16,470 --> 00:57:15,280
literally whatever could be accessed

1432
00:57:19,670 --> 00:57:16,480
publicly

1433
00:57:20,549 --> 00:57:19,680
uh but um they so so what i'm assuming

1434
00:57:22,309 --> 00:57:20,559
they're gonna do

1435
00:57:24,870 --> 00:57:22,319
being that they lost octa and they lost

1436
00:57:26,390 --> 00:57:24,880
twilio when they get this back up

1437
00:57:28,470 --> 00:57:26,400
i think they're going to probably force

1438
00:57:30,549 --> 00:57:28,480
everyone to do a reset password with

1439
00:57:31,990 --> 00:57:30,559
whatever email was on your account

1440
00:57:33,510 --> 00:57:32,000
something along those lines we've seen

1441
00:57:33,990 --> 00:57:33,520
other services come back from hacks and

1442
00:57:35,589 --> 00:57:34,000
just

1443
00:57:37,510 --> 00:57:35,599
force everyone to change their password

1444
00:57:40,230 --> 00:57:37,520
and then you get back in

1445
00:57:43,190 --> 00:57:40,240
so so but you would have to have another

1446
00:57:45,430 --> 00:57:43,200
verification service like octa

1447
00:57:46,230 --> 00:57:45,440
um built back into the front end and so

1448
00:57:48,549 --> 00:57:46,240
what do you do

1449
00:57:49,349 --> 00:57:48,559
with millions of users is it some kind

1450
00:57:53,349 --> 00:57:49,359
of

1451
00:57:54,950 --> 00:57:53,359
uh excel spreadsheet

1452
00:57:57,589 --> 00:57:54,960
i don't know i'm asking you i mean how

1453
00:58:00,150 --> 00:57:57,599
do you how how do you do that

1454
00:58:02,710 --> 00:58:00,160
um i mean twitter doesn't do anything

1455
00:58:05,910 --> 00:58:02,720
like octa

1456
00:58:08,309 --> 00:58:05,920
yeah interesting interesting and i i

1457
00:58:09,990 --> 00:58:08,319
still don't know why parlor wants my uh

1458
00:58:11,589 --> 00:58:10,000
well they don't want mine because see

1459
00:58:13,270 --> 00:58:11,599
since they invited me they didn't need

1460
00:58:15,990 --> 00:58:13,280
my license to verify me

1461
00:58:17,430 --> 00:58:16,000
and i got a zoom call from them and we

1462
00:58:18,069 --> 00:58:17,440
got to talk and they were like oh it's

1463
00:58:19,829 --> 00:58:18,079
you

1464
00:58:21,030 --> 00:58:19,839
so they didn't get any of my id so even

1465
00:58:22,309 --> 00:58:21,040
if it had been downloaded i wouldn't

1466
00:58:25,190 --> 00:58:22,319
have been in there because

1467
00:58:26,950 --> 00:58:25,200
they are very classist and as long as

1468
00:58:27,510 --> 00:58:26,960
you have a small following somewhere

1469
00:58:29,829 --> 00:58:27,520
else

1470
00:58:31,030 --> 00:58:29,839
it doesn't matter large whatever they

1471
00:58:32,950 --> 00:58:31,040
will let you bypass

1472
00:58:34,470 --> 00:58:32,960
all of their authentication methods all

1473
00:58:35,510 --> 00:58:34,480
of their verification give you all the

1474
00:58:38,870 --> 00:58:35,520
badges

1475
00:58:40,309 --> 00:58:38,880
and uh i've got 15 seconds left so the

1476
00:58:43,510 --> 00:58:40,319
reports of which

1477
00:58:46,630 --> 00:58:43,520
there are many out there

1478
00:58:50,150 --> 00:58:46,640
from different media sources that

1479
00:58:52,230 --> 00:58:50,160
the driver's licenses and those images

1480
00:58:54,069 --> 00:58:52,240
have been accessed you're saying that

1481
00:58:56,309 --> 00:58:54,079
they have not

1482
00:58:57,349 --> 00:58:56,319
when you talk about the 70 terabyte data

1483
00:59:00,069 --> 00:58:57,359
set from the

1484
00:59:00,710 --> 00:59:00,079
the um people who are archiving all of

1485
00:59:06,470 --> 00:59:00,720
that

1486
00:59:08,549 --> 00:59:06,480
you know hacker out there somewhere in

1487
00:59:10,309 --> 00:59:08,559
the world who did get into that

1488
00:59:13,030 --> 00:59:10,319
right but we don't know of any of that i

1489
00:59:15,270 --> 00:59:13,040
have actually found where the person who

1490
00:59:16,549 --> 00:59:15,280
did the original download of the 70

1491
00:59:17,910 --> 00:59:16,559
terabytes is and

1492
00:59:19,990 --> 00:59:17,920
i've talked to them over the last couple

1493
00:59:23,109 --> 00:59:20,000
days and none of that data is in there

1494
00:59:24,470 --> 00:59:23,119
um however someone else might have that

1495
00:59:25,510 --> 00:59:24,480
and so i'm not going to say it's not out

1496
00:59:27,670 --> 00:59:25,520
there i just know

1497
00:59:29,589 --> 00:59:27,680
it wasn't easily accessible by anyone

1498
00:59:31,430 --> 00:59:29,599
that i saw from anything public and

1499
00:59:33,270 --> 00:59:31,440
they were doing their best not to infect

1500
00:59:35,030 --> 00:59:33,280
their data with things that might have

1501
00:59:36,549 --> 00:59:35,040
been problematic to download

1502
00:59:38,230 --> 00:59:36,559
let's take our break right here our

1503
00:59:42,150 --> 00:59:38,240
guest tonight the one and only greg

1504
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housh talking about big data big tech

1505
00:59:47,030 --> 00:59:45,520
big drama it's all going down right now

1506
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more with greg when we come back after

1507
00:59:50,069 --> 00:59:48,559
this short break i'm real jimmy church

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this is fade to black

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on the game changer network and kgra the

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you can follow greg house that's greg

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with two g's

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we've got it up in our twitter feed

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this is fade to black with jimmy church

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jimmy church tonight greg house

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the one and only we're talking about big

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tech big drama

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and tonight greg and i

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are going to attempt to explain

1647
01:05:40,069 --> 01:05:36,720
what is actually going on and

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this is uh this is a touchy area uh

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greg for not only our audience but

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the rest of the country and and

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everything else and

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where people are talking about first

1653
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amendment rights

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and and things you've been an activist

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01:05:55,829 --> 01:05:53,359
uh for

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a very long time about not only these

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subjects

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but uh the internet and those freedoms

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the glorious freedom that was promised

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to us in the very beginning

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um things have gone off the track and

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gone off the rails a few times we've

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tried to keep things

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uh back on the track but this is

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this is your wheelhouse and for me to be

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able to

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uh bring you on to this show and discuss

1668
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these issues that are very sensitive

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to so many uh the internet uh

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in any form is now uh

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an emotional thing for people and it is

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a part of a daily life this is this is

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what we deal with today

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and and they don't understand a lot of

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the times the complications

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that are running in the background

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and it surprises me to

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see over and over again that uh like the

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issues with parlor

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or or twitter or whatever that first

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01:06:57,029 --> 01:06:56,240
amendment is the first thing that people

1682
01:06:59,670 --> 01:06:57,039
bring up

1683
01:07:00,230 --> 01:06:59,680
um how do you combat that and how do you

1684
01:07:04,470 --> 01:07:00,240
take that

1685
01:07:05,990 --> 01:07:04,480
head on well i mean

1686
01:07:07,750 --> 01:07:06,000
it's a weird one because anyone

1687
01:07:09,190 --> 01:07:07,760
screaming that somehow

1688
01:07:11,029 --> 01:07:09,200
being on twitter is their first

1689
01:07:13,349 --> 01:07:11,039
amendment right hasn't

1690
01:07:14,390 --> 01:07:13,359
read the first amendment or seen any

1691
01:07:16,950 --> 01:07:14,400
precedence that

1692
01:07:18,789 --> 01:07:16,960
has actually been set around it the

1693
01:07:21,750 --> 01:07:18,799
first amendment uh protects

1694
01:07:23,029 --> 01:07:21,760
you with free speech in terms of the

1695
01:07:25,910 --> 01:07:23,039
government

1696
01:07:27,029 --> 01:07:25,920
it however does not protect you to use

1697
01:07:30,470 --> 01:07:27,039
any speech you want

1698
01:07:31,750 --> 01:07:30,480
on a private company's platform uh

1699
01:07:34,069 --> 01:07:31,760
they are allowed to use terms of

1700
01:07:35,910 --> 01:07:34,079
services and enforce them on whatever

1701
01:07:39,029 --> 01:07:35,920
speech they choose

1702
01:07:40,309 --> 01:07:39,039
uh so this is uh

1703
01:07:42,230 --> 01:07:40,319
something that they get to do and what

1704
01:07:44,230 --> 01:07:42,240
what's always been weird to me is when

1705
01:07:45,589 --> 01:07:44,240
you see something like parlor go down

1706
01:07:47,430 --> 01:07:45,599
and you start hearing all the free

1707
01:07:51,430 --> 01:07:47,440
speech claims and you hear that

1708
01:07:53,109 --> 01:07:51,440
octa twilio amazon are all backing out

1709
01:07:54,870 --> 01:07:53,119
of contracts with them

1710
01:07:56,870 --> 01:07:54,880
people again are screaming about free

1711
01:07:58,390 --> 01:07:56,880
speech but um

1712
01:08:01,270 --> 01:07:58,400
it's the exact same people who will

1713
01:08:03,430 --> 01:08:01,280
scream at you to let the free market uh

1714
01:08:04,950 --> 01:08:03,440
speak and let the free market uh dictate

1715
01:08:08,950 --> 01:08:04,960
where things go and uh

1716
01:08:12,309 --> 01:08:08,960
the free market spoke and parlor lost

1717
01:08:14,630 --> 01:08:12,319
the uh the an example

1718
01:08:17,110 --> 01:08:14,640
uh in a very simple form would be

1719
01:08:20,229 --> 01:08:17,120
something like this

1720
01:08:22,550 --> 01:08:20,239
you own a website that talks about

1721
01:08:23,430 --> 01:08:22,560
dogs and you've got a form there and

1722
01:08:25,030 --> 01:08:23,440
you've got people

1723
01:08:26,709 --> 01:08:25,040
and you've got somebody that wants to

1724
01:08:30,070 --> 01:08:26,719
come on and talk about

1725
01:08:30,709 --> 01:08:30,080
cats and you tell them look man you know

1726
01:08:34,149 --> 01:08:30,719
this is

1727
01:08:35,749 --> 01:08:34,159
but but

1728
01:08:37,349 --> 01:08:35,759
we need to keep this about and then it

1729
01:08:41,030 --> 01:08:37,359
it it goes south

1730
01:08:43,829 --> 01:08:41,040
from there and that if i own that

1731
01:08:44,630 --> 01:08:43,839
site i have the right to kick that

1732
01:08:46,950 --> 01:08:44,640
person off

1733
01:08:47,749 --> 01:08:46,960
we don't you know this isn't what we do

1734
01:08:50,470 --> 01:08:47,759
here

1735
01:08:52,070 --> 01:08:50,480
it you can elevate that into any area

1736
01:08:55,349 --> 01:08:52,080
that you want but in its simplest

1737
01:08:57,910 --> 01:08:55,359
form that terms of service is there

1738
01:08:59,430 --> 01:08:57,920
and it's a private company and the line

1739
01:09:02,470 --> 01:08:59,440
in the sand can be drawn

1740
01:09:04,309 --> 01:09:02,480
by the owners of the company right yeah

1741
01:09:06,229 --> 01:09:04,319
absolutely it's it's the world we live

1742
01:09:08,229 --> 01:09:06,239
in now if you want to start arguing

1743
01:09:09,990 --> 01:09:08,239
how enforceable terms of services are

1744
01:09:11,590 --> 01:09:10,000
well i mean it's gone up to the federal

1745
01:09:13,669 --> 01:09:11,600
level and been found to be

1746
01:09:15,030 --> 01:09:13,679
a federal violation to violate terms of

1747
01:09:17,590 --> 01:09:15,040
service knowingly

1748
01:09:19,590 --> 01:09:17,600
uh by by you know by users of these

1749
01:09:21,990 --> 01:09:19,600
companies so um

1750
01:09:24,550 --> 01:09:22,000
so we have more than enough precedence

1751
01:09:27,430 --> 01:09:24,560
showing that it is you know totally

1752
01:09:27,829 --> 01:09:27,440
actionable so they have to remove people

1753
01:09:29,430 --> 01:09:27,839
i mean

1754
01:09:32,829 --> 01:09:29,440
one of the more interesting things is it

1755
01:09:40,550 --> 01:09:32,839
works kind of like copyright law where

1756
01:09:43,430 --> 01:09:41,990
let a bunch of people violate it and

1757
01:09:44,229 --> 01:09:43,440
then you go after one person for

1758
01:09:45,349 --> 01:09:44,239
violating it

1759
01:09:46,870 --> 01:09:45,359
they're gonna look at you and say but

1760
01:09:48,709 --> 01:09:46,880
you let everyone else do it and didn't

1761
01:09:51,030 --> 01:09:48,719
do anything about that so

1762
01:09:52,470 --> 01:09:51,040
this is and you know and you'll you

1763
01:09:53,110 --> 01:09:52,480
won't be able to enforce your trademark

1764
01:09:55,270 --> 01:09:53,120
anymore

1765
01:09:57,030 --> 01:09:55,280
well with terms of services they have to

1766
01:10:01,350 --> 01:09:57,040
enforce them

1767
01:10:04,390 --> 01:10:01,360
equally to everyone or to no one

1768
01:10:08,790 --> 01:10:04,400
right it's really that simple and there

1769
01:10:16,709 --> 01:10:12,950
the the social media platform

1770
01:10:19,990 --> 01:10:16,719
a privilege they are not a right

1771
01:10:23,110 --> 01:10:20,000
you sign up for it you

1772
01:10:26,630 --> 01:10:23,120
are not brought into it

1773
01:10:27,270 --> 01:10:26,640
you volunteer you sign up you create the

1774
01:10:29,510 --> 01:10:27,280
account

1775
01:10:31,270 --> 01:10:29,520
and you click on the terms of service

1776
01:10:33,990 --> 01:10:31,280
and agree to it

1777
01:10:35,270 --> 01:10:34,000
it's as simple as that right cancel your

1778
01:10:42,149 --> 01:10:35,280
account

1779
01:10:43,030 --> 01:10:42,159
right you both have that choice in this

1780
01:10:46,229 --> 01:10:43,040
relationship

1781
01:10:48,390 --> 01:10:46,239
either of you can end

1782
01:10:50,070 --> 01:10:48,400
uh i i forget what they call it here in

1783
01:10:53,270 --> 01:10:50,080
california but

1784
01:10:56,149 --> 01:10:53,280
um uh there there's a uh

1785
01:10:58,870 --> 01:10:56,159
i forget the law the name of the law but

1786
01:11:00,229 --> 01:10:58,880
you can be fired for whatever reason

1787
01:11:02,070 --> 01:11:00,239
in california they don't have to have a

1788
01:11:05,030 --> 01:11:02,080
reason to fire you without cause

1789
01:11:05,750 --> 01:11:05,040
yeah without cause you can quit without

1790
01:11:09,510 --> 01:11:05,760
reason

1791
01:11:12,070 --> 01:11:09,520
right it's it's it's equal on both sides

1792
01:11:13,110 --> 01:11:12,080
um it's a it's a very strange thing okay

1793
01:11:16,790 --> 01:11:13,120
so

1794
01:11:18,870 --> 01:11:16,800
um in terms of uh what parlor

1795
01:11:21,030 --> 01:11:18,880
is is saying now we'll get to twitter in

1796
01:11:24,950 --> 01:11:21,040
a second and and president trump

1797
01:11:28,470 --> 01:11:24,960
um but parlor now is saying

1798
01:11:31,990 --> 01:11:28,480
that aws amazon web services

1799
01:11:33,270 --> 01:11:32,000
that there's a 30-day you know warning

1800
01:11:36,390 --> 01:11:33,280
shot before

1801
01:11:38,310 --> 01:11:36,400
things get pulled off of the servers and

1802
01:11:39,430 --> 01:11:38,320
now they're going back and suing amazon

1803
01:11:42,310 --> 01:11:39,440
is that

1804
01:11:43,510 --> 01:11:42,320
in your i know you're not an attorney

1805
01:11:45,669 --> 01:11:43,520
but

1806
01:11:47,990 --> 01:11:45,679
is there any is there any legal wiggle

1807
01:11:51,510 --> 01:11:48,000
room in something like that

1808
01:11:53,270 --> 01:11:51,520
no uh uh this is i mean this is the last

1809
01:11:55,990 --> 01:11:53,280
throws of something that

1810
01:11:57,830 --> 01:11:56,000
is trying to find a way out of a

1811
01:11:58,870 --> 01:11:57,840
seriously problematic space they've put

1812
01:12:02,550 --> 01:11:58,880
themselves into

1813
01:12:04,550 --> 01:12:02,560
um the the issue for them is

1814
01:12:05,830 --> 01:12:04,560
not that there aren't other platforms

1815
01:12:07,750 --> 01:12:05,840
they can move to

1816
01:12:10,310 --> 01:12:07,760
it's that they wrote their code very

1817
01:12:13,910 --> 01:12:10,320
specifically to work on aws

1818
01:12:17,189 --> 01:12:13,920
and while you can on amazon's cloud

1819
01:12:18,870 --> 01:12:17,199
write code that will work on almost any

1820
01:12:20,470 --> 01:12:18,880
other cloud or any other private server

1821
01:12:21,910 --> 01:12:20,480
if you feel like it

1822
01:12:23,590 --> 01:12:21,920
if you want to take advantage of all

1823
01:12:25,030 --> 01:12:23,600
their cool stuff that lets you scale a

1824
01:12:27,189 --> 01:12:25,040
little better that lets you do

1825
01:12:29,030 --> 01:12:27,199
automated backups and all these other

1826
01:12:29,669 --> 01:12:29,040
little features that are built into aws

1827
01:12:33,270 --> 01:12:29,679
then

1828
01:12:34,709 --> 01:12:33,280
you're programming for aws so a lot of

1829
01:12:37,990 --> 01:12:34,719
parlor's code is written

1830
01:12:39,189 --> 01:12:38,000
and tightly coupled to aws so when they

1831
01:12:40,470 --> 01:12:39,199
move anywhere else they're going to have

1832
01:12:42,310 --> 01:12:40,480
to rewrite

1833
01:12:44,550 --> 01:12:42,320
most of their code and that's what

1834
01:12:46,229 --> 01:12:44,560
they're scared of now so they're filing

1835
01:12:47,669 --> 01:12:46,239
this to try and buy themselves some more

1836
01:12:49,110 --> 01:12:47,679
time to do something like that

1837
01:12:50,950 --> 01:12:49,120
right right and they're trying to get

1838
01:12:53,669 --> 01:12:50,960
into a temporary injunction

1839
01:12:55,110 --> 01:12:53,679
um after bowed mouthing and saying

1840
01:12:57,110 --> 01:12:55,120
everything about amazon now they still

1841
01:12:57,750 --> 01:12:57,120
want back onto their servers to buy some

1842
01:12:59,430 --> 01:12:57,760
time

1843
01:13:01,350 --> 01:12:59,440
i find that there's an irony in all of

1844
01:13:03,270 --> 01:13:01,360
this that you know john mate there

1845
01:13:05,270 --> 01:13:03,280
used to work for aws and helped kind of

1846
01:13:07,430 --> 01:13:05,280
build a lot of what

1847
01:13:08,630 --> 01:13:07,440
what tools he's using now and people

1848
01:13:11,750 --> 01:13:08,640
that he used to work with

1849
01:13:12,790 --> 01:13:11,760
or for um are the ones who did this to

1850
01:13:15,830 --> 01:13:12,800
parlor

1851
01:13:17,030 --> 01:13:15,840
now um the oh i wanted to

1852
01:13:19,030 --> 01:13:17,040
let's back up for a second i want to

1853
01:13:22,630 --> 01:13:19,040
talk about octa

1854
01:13:26,149 --> 01:13:22,640
there the reason why

1855
01:13:29,350 --> 01:13:26,159
uh octa got involved they found out

1856
01:13:32,630 --> 01:13:29,360
that parlor was using

1857
01:13:35,830 --> 01:13:32,640
a trial version of their software now

1858
01:13:37,189 --> 01:13:35,840
can you confirm that uh yeah uh

1859
01:13:38,950 --> 01:13:37,199
they were using a trial version of the

1860
01:13:39,830 --> 01:13:38,960
software and they had found a way to get

1861
01:13:42,630 --> 01:13:39,840
it to

1862
01:13:43,430 --> 01:13:42,640
continue to be a trial at a low enough

1863
01:13:45,350 --> 01:13:43,440
rate

1864
01:13:46,870 --> 01:13:45,360
uh that it wouldn't actually force them

1865
01:13:49,510 --> 01:13:46,880
onto the paid part of the platform

1866
01:13:51,510 --> 01:13:49,520
now with rebecca mercer in play why

1867
01:13:54,390 --> 01:13:51,520
aren't you paying for the real octa

1868
01:13:55,350 --> 01:13:54,400
software i don't know i don't i don't

1869
01:13:58,310 --> 01:13:55,360
understand that and

1870
01:13:59,669 --> 01:13:58,320
it comes up look if you are going to

1871
01:14:02,149 --> 01:13:59,679
this is where i'm gonna

1872
01:14:02,790 --> 01:14:02,159
probably cross a line but if you're

1873
01:14:05,750 --> 01:14:02,800
gonna

1874
01:14:06,470 --> 01:14:05,760
represent yourself as a website that has

1875
01:14:09,750 --> 01:14:06,480
ethics

1876
01:14:10,950 --> 01:14:09,760
and integrity right and freedom of

1877
01:14:13,669 --> 01:14:10,960
speech and all of these

1878
01:14:15,510 --> 01:14:13,679
values that you're gonna tout and which

1879
01:14:17,750 --> 01:14:15,520
every single right-wing website will say

1880
01:14:18,950 --> 01:14:17,760
yes and then you turn around and you're

1881
01:14:21,030 --> 01:14:18,960
using

1882
01:14:22,950 --> 01:14:21,040
a pirated version of trial software that

1883
01:14:24,070 --> 01:14:22,960
you've modified haven't paid for for two

1884
01:14:27,189 --> 01:14:24,080
years

1885
01:14:28,550 --> 01:14:27,199
i've got issues with that i mean you

1886
01:14:30,550 --> 01:14:28,560
know the problem here is is i'm gonna

1887
01:14:32,790 --> 01:14:30,560
say something legally actionable if i go

1888
01:14:34,149 --> 01:14:32,800
too deep into that in in my in terms of

1889
01:14:37,350 --> 01:14:34,159
my opinion

1890
01:14:39,669 --> 01:14:37,360
of uh what the real story is here

1891
01:14:41,270 --> 01:14:39,679
you know well then don't all i will say

1892
01:14:43,750 --> 01:14:41,280
is i i believe a lot of the people

1893
01:14:47,510 --> 01:14:43,760
involved at the highest levels here

1894
01:14:49,510 --> 01:14:47,520
are grifters they saw an opening

1895
01:14:52,149 --> 01:14:49,520
that they could use to extract money

1896
01:14:55,189 --> 01:14:52,159
from rich right-wing investors

1897
01:14:55,510 --> 01:14:55,199
and they saw a vector in which there was

1898
01:14:57,750 --> 01:14:55,520
an

1899
01:14:59,270 --> 01:14:57,760
upset group of people who didn't feel

1900
01:15:01,350 --> 01:14:59,280
like they had a home

1901
01:15:03,110 --> 01:15:01,360
and taking that money and skimming off

1902
01:15:05,430 --> 01:15:03,120
the top they could

1903
01:15:07,510 --> 01:15:05,440
build that home and uh still make

1904
01:15:09,110 --> 01:15:07,520
themselves a lot of cash

1905
01:15:11,110 --> 01:15:09,120
yeah that's not it personally that's

1906
01:15:13,350 --> 01:15:11,120
what i think parlor was yeah

1907
01:15:14,229 --> 01:15:13,360
that's not actionable i think that's uh

1908
01:15:15,830 --> 01:15:14,239
that's a

1909
01:15:18,390 --> 01:15:15,840
that's my personal opinion yeah that's

1910
01:15:21,350 --> 01:15:18,400
an honest theory that's an honest theory

1911
01:15:22,830 --> 01:15:21,360
um okay so now uh moving back in the

1912
01:15:26,310 --> 01:15:22,840
other direction

1913
01:15:28,470 --> 01:15:26,320
um from what i have been

1914
01:15:29,910 --> 01:15:28,480
able to gather from the professionals

1915
01:15:32,630 --> 01:15:29,920
out there i've been reading

1916
01:15:34,550 --> 01:15:32,640
all of the information i can on parlor

1917
01:15:37,270 --> 01:15:34,560
and the migration onto

1918
01:15:38,229 --> 01:15:37,280
another set of servers this is nothing

1919
01:15:40,550 --> 01:15:38,239
easy

1920
01:15:42,390 --> 01:15:40,560
where uh john mate right now is saying

1921
01:15:42,790 --> 01:15:42,400
oh you know a few days maybe about a

1922
01:15:45,189 --> 01:15:42,800
week

1923
01:15:46,870 --> 01:15:45,199
and and we'll be back up and running and

1924
01:15:48,470 --> 01:15:46,880
then others are saying not so fast

1925
01:15:49,910 --> 01:15:48,480
you're talking about months and months

1926
01:15:53,590 --> 01:15:49,920
of code writing

1927
01:15:54,470 --> 01:15:53,600
and then a year or so in the migration

1928
01:15:57,590 --> 01:15:54,480
process to get

1929
01:15:58,709 --> 01:15:57,600
everything smoothed out um which are are

1930
01:16:02,390 --> 01:15:58,719
we somewhere in the middle

1931
01:16:03,669 --> 01:16:02,400
or are we on how much support he gets

1932
01:16:05,990 --> 01:16:03,679
from his new provider

1933
01:16:07,830 --> 01:16:06,000
what actual technology that provider is

1934
01:16:09,350 --> 01:16:07,840
running on and what they provide and it

1935
01:16:11,910 --> 01:16:09,360
also depends on

1936
01:16:13,669 --> 01:16:11,920
the skill set of his programming team

1937
01:16:15,750 --> 01:16:13,679
that are going to do the migration

1938
01:16:17,510 --> 01:16:15,760
uh you know there's a lot a couple

1939
01:16:19,110 --> 01:16:17,520
months is not off the table for this to

1940
01:16:21,189 --> 01:16:19,120
be fully back up and running with the

1941
01:16:22,870 --> 01:16:21,199
right team the right investment

1942
01:16:24,310 --> 01:16:22,880
and the right technology partner for

1943
01:16:28,149 --> 01:16:24,320
your hosting my

1944
01:16:31,270 --> 01:16:28,159
my bigger issues here are um gab

1945
01:16:34,310 --> 01:16:31,280
everyone on the right knowsgab.com um

1946
01:16:35,430 --> 01:16:34,320
and most of us lefties do too um but we

1947
01:16:37,830 --> 01:16:35,440
just don't use it

1948
01:16:38,790 --> 01:16:37,840
uh everyone will notice that they've had

1949
01:16:40,790 --> 01:16:38,800
nothing but trouble

1950
01:16:42,709 --> 01:16:40,800
keeping online for the last week as

1951
01:16:44,310 --> 01:16:42,719
parlor's been on its way down

1952
01:16:46,390 --> 01:16:44,320
and people have been migrating that

1953
01:16:49,270 --> 01:16:46,400
direction for somewhere to be

1954
01:16:50,950 --> 01:16:49,280
um where parlor is probably going to end

1955
01:16:53,910 --> 01:16:50,960
up is the same server's gab

1956
01:16:54,870 --> 01:16:53,920
is and gab at one third the size in

1957
01:16:56,870 --> 01:16:54,880
traffic

1958
01:16:58,310 --> 01:16:56,880
is falling over and failing and unable

1959
01:17:00,630 --> 01:16:58,320
to stay online

1960
01:17:02,790 --> 01:17:00,640
so what is parlor going to do on those

1961
01:17:06,149 --> 01:17:02,800
servers at that same host

1962
01:17:09,510 --> 01:17:06,159
uh that host being epic epik.com

1963
01:17:10,390 --> 01:17:09,520
with an owner named rob monster i am not

1964
01:17:12,550 --> 01:17:10,400
messing with you

1965
01:17:14,149 --> 01:17:12,560
his last name is monster that is his

1966
01:17:17,910 --> 01:17:14,159
real last name

1967
01:17:19,830 --> 01:17:17,920
and uh he uh likes to take people who

1968
01:17:22,149 --> 01:17:19,840
will scream about free speech

1969
01:17:23,510 --> 01:17:22,159
and not moderate their platforms

1970
01:17:26,709 --> 01:17:23,520
allowing

1971
01:17:29,030 --> 01:17:26,719
hate violence threats to just thrive

1972
01:17:31,030 --> 01:17:29,040
uh and put them on his network and and

1973
01:17:34,790 --> 01:17:31,040
shield them from people

1974
01:17:36,950 --> 01:17:34,800
so uh by parlor going over to there

1975
01:17:38,709 --> 01:17:36,960
they're not going to deal with the terms

1976
01:17:41,669 --> 01:17:38,719
of service contract

1977
01:17:42,149 --> 01:17:41,679
like they had with aws they're going to

1978
01:17:44,229 --> 01:17:42,159
have an

1979
01:17:45,830 --> 01:17:44,239
owner of the company that is fully

1980
01:17:47,910 --> 01:17:45,840
behind what they're doing

1981
01:17:49,350 --> 01:17:47,920
if they do end up actually properly

1982
01:17:52,310 --> 01:17:49,360
built out on uh

1983
01:17:54,870 --> 01:17:52,320
epics uh systems but epic is nothing

1984
01:17:56,630 --> 01:17:54,880
compared to aws that's like

1985
01:17:58,070 --> 01:17:56,640
you did you have a do you have a local

1986
01:18:00,149 --> 01:17:58,080
guy near you that you know that's really

1987
01:18:01,110 --> 01:18:00,159
into bicycles that builds his own custom

1988
01:18:03,430 --> 01:18:01,120
bicycles

1989
01:18:04,630 --> 01:18:03,440
that's like comparing that guy to trek

1990
01:18:07,510 --> 01:18:04,640
bicycles

1991
01:18:08,390 --> 01:18:07,520
like it's it's that world of difference

1992
01:18:09,750 --> 01:18:08,400
in hosting

1993
01:18:11,510 --> 01:18:09,760
tools that you're gonna have available

1994
01:18:15,189 --> 01:18:11,520
to you so like

1995
01:18:17,030 --> 01:18:15,199
you know it's if their engineers are

1996
01:18:20,950 --> 01:18:17,040
unbelievably good they could pull

1997
01:18:23,350 --> 01:18:20,960
something off us somewhat a miracle but

1998
01:18:25,350 --> 01:18:23,360
we kind of saw with how easy it was for

1999
01:18:27,669 --> 01:18:25,360
people just to download most of all of

2000
01:18:30,630 --> 01:18:27,679
the data in like two days time

2001
01:18:31,669 --> 01:18:30,640
with no authentications no hacking no

2002
01:18:33,669 --> 01:18:31,679
nothing that

2003
01:18:35,350 --> 01:18:33,679
their engineers might not be up to that

2004
01:18:39,990 --> 01:18:35,360
task at that speed

2005
01:18:43,350 --> 01:18:40,000
now what um

2006
01:18:46,550 --> 01:18:43,360
what is the message that

2007
01:18:47,270 --> 01:18:46,560
twitter facebook um and the other tech

2008
01:18:51,430 --> 01:18:47,280
companies

2009
01:18:54,390 --> 01:18:51,440
uh what if we even say pinterest but um

2010
01:18:56,950 --> 01:18:54,400
and the power that they actually have

2011
01:18:59,830 --> 01:18:56,960
and they are not concerned about

2012
01:19:00,229 --> 01:18:59,840
the president of the united states right

2013
01:19:02,950 --> 01:19:00,239
they

2014
01:19:05,030 --> 01:19:02,960
that these decisions were made about the

2015
01:19:08,149 --> 01:19:05,040
president of the united states

2016
01:19:10,630 --> 01:19:08,159
and it's like they don't give a crap

2017
01:19:11,830 --> 01:19:10,640
is is that the kind of power that we are

2018
01:19:14,229 --> 01:19:11,840
talking about

2019
01:19:15,990 --> 01:19:14,239
uh with twitter and facebook and these

2020
01:19:18,630 --> 01:19:16,000
other social media platforms

2021
01:19:19,590 --> 01:19:18,640
up until a couple weeks before the end

2022
01:19:22,310 --> 01:19:19,600
of his term

2023
01:19:23,270 --> 01:19:22,320
when they should have removed him years

2024
01:19:26,310 --> 01:19:23,280
ago

2025
01:19:30,070 --> 01:19:26,320
for threats of violence attacks

2026
01:19:31,990 --> 01:19:30,080
outright lies false information

2027
01:19:33,750 --> 01:19:32,000
i don't care what your position in the

2028
01:19:34,630 --> 01:19:33,760
world is you shouldn't be allowed to do

2029
01:19:38,550 --> 01:19:34,640
those things

2030
01:19:41,669 --> 01:19:38,560
and he was on average uh hitting three

2031
01:19:44,149 --> 01:19:41,679
outright direct provable

2032
01:19:44,950 --> 01:19:44,159
by simple facts sometimes even simple

2033
01:19:48,070 --> 01:19:44,960
math

2034
01:19:50,709 --> 01:19:48,080
lies on twitter a day that account

2035
01:19:51,350 --> 01:19:50,719
uh was followed by too many people to

2036
01:19:52,870 --> 01:19:51,360
allow

2037
01:19:55,830 --> 01:19:52,880
that amount of information to keep

2038
01:19:57,510 --> 01:19:55,840
flowing now that's obviously not why

2039
01:19:59,990 --> 01:19:57,520
it went down this time this time it's

2040
01:20:01,590 --> 01:20:00,000
because he kept inciting violence

2041
01:20:03,189 --> 01:20:01,600
uh and you can't allow people to incite

2042
01:20:06,629 --> 01:20:03,199
violence people died

2043
01:20:09,669 --> 01:20:06,639
and what blows my mind is is multiple

2044
01:20:11,270 --> 01:20:09,679
cops are dead and every you know every

2045
01:20:13,110 --> 01:20:11,280
back to blue rally i've ever seen has

2046
01:20:15,110 --> 01:20:13,120
been nothing but trump supporters

2047
01:20:17,030 --> 01:20:15,120
do you back the blue or do you murder

2048
01:20:19,830 --> 01:20:17,040
cops

2049
01:20:20,629 --> 01:20:19,840
which one is it right right right right

2050
01:20:24,229 --> 01:20:20,639
and

2051
01:20:25,990 --> 01:20:24,239
it is uh is the power

2052
01:20:27,510 --> 01:20:26,000
i mean the internet is one thing but

2053
01:20:30,550 --> 01:20:27,520
when you look at

2054
01:20:33,189 --> 01:20:30,560
amazon you have the

2055
01:20:34,070 --> 01:20:33,199
commercial side of it right the the

2056
01:20:37,030 --> 01:20:34,080
sales

2057
01:20:37,669 --> 01:20:37,040
then you have the web services section

2058
01:20:40,870 --> 01:20:37,679
which is

2059
01:20:43,270 --> 01:20:40,880
equally as ginormous as the distribution

2060
01:20:46,070 --> 01:20:43,280
and logistics side of amazon

2061
01:20:46,629 --> 01:20:46,080
you look at the what google represents

2062
01:20:49,270 --> 01:20:46,639
which is

2063
01:20:51,590 --> 01:20:49,280
95 of everybody in the world every

2064
01:20:53,030 --> 01:20:51,600
single day is using google period

2065
01:20:55,110 --> 01:20:53,040
we get to the other side of the coin

2066
01:20:55,750 --> 01:20:55,120
right right the the the first side of

2067
01:20:57,990 --> 01:20:55,760
the coin

2068
01:21:00,149 --> 01:20:58,000
is any platform like this has the

2069
01:21:03,030 --> 01:21:00,159
outright right in this country

2070
01:21:04,149 --> 01:21:03,040
to deny anyone service including and up

2071
01:21:07,430 --> 01:21:04,159
to the president

2072
01:21:09,669 --> 01:21:07,440
so and we get these rules thanks to all

2073
01:21:10,870 --> 01:21:09,679
the republicans fighting so hard to make

2074
01:21:13,110 --> 01:21:10,880
sure that bakeries

2075
01:21:14,709 --> 01:21:13,120
don't have to make gay wedding cakes i

2076
01:21:15,590 --> 01:21:14,719
mean if they don't have to make gay

2077
01:21:17,270 --> 01:21:15,600
wedding cakes

2078
01:21:19,189 --> 01:21:17,280
i don't have to let the president on my

2079
01:21:22,870 --> 01:21:19,199
platform simple as that

2080
01:21:24,390 --> 01:21:22,880
it goes both ways but now you have the

2081
01:21:27,270 --> 01:21:24,400
other argument which is

2082
01:21:27,750 --> 01:21:27,280
unrelated the unrelated argument to me

2083
01:21:36,950 --> 01:21:27,760
is

2084
01:21:40,870 --> 01:21:36,960
argument and i say no

2085
01:21:42,790 --> 01:21:40,880
absolutely not um but

2086
01:21:44,550 --> 01:21:42,800
that's where things get really really

2087
01:21:47,270 --> 01:21:44,560
complicated

2088
01:21:48,790 --> 01:21:47,280
because let let me explain this so

2089
01:21:52,550 --> 01:21:48,800
people really understand it

2090
01:21:55,750 --> 01:21:52,560
i was on parlor for about five weeks

2091
01:21:56,310 --> 01:21:55,760
uh and on a daily basis i've received

2092
01:21:59,590 --> 01:21:56,320
between

2093
01:22:02,629 --> 01:21:59,600
three and five uh death threats

2094
01:22:04,229 --> 01:22:02,639
i got doxed six total times and only

2095
01:22:06,229 --> 01:22:04,239
that many weeks like full name home

2096
01:22:08,149 --> 01:22:06,239
address all that um

2097
01:22:09,669 --> 01:22:08,159
i was told all the various things that

2098
01:22:11,110 --> 01:22:09,679
were going to be done to me for being a

2099
01:22:13,510 --> 01:22:11,120
lefty and being

2100
01:22:15,110 --> 01:22:13,520
on their platform it was quite

2101
01:22:17,910 --> 01:22:15,120
disgusting i however

2102
01:22:19,350 --> 01:22:17,920
have literally no fear it's a problem

2103
01:22:20,629 --> 01:22:19,360
honestly and my my sense of self

2104
01:22:23,990 --> 01:22:20,639
preservation is like

2105
01:22:26,390 --> 01:22:24,000
gone so i just i didn't care

2106
01:22:27,830 --> 01:22:26,400
on a personal level but i saw multiple

2107
01:22:29,110 --> 01:22:27,840
other people getting really upset over

2108
01:22:30,149 --> 01:22:29,120
how they were getting treated like that

2109
01:22:34,149 --> 01:22:30,159
over there

2110
01:22:37,189 --> 01:22:34,159
and um parlor did nothing about it

2111
01:22:38,070 --> 01:22:37,199
they didn't even so much as you know say

2112
01:22:39,910 --> 01:22:38,080
stop it

2113
01:22:42,229 --> 01:22:39,920
to the people who were sending literal

2114
01:22:42,870 --> 01:22:42,239
death threats with your home address in

2115
01:22:45,110 --> 01:22:42,880
them

2116
01:22:46,310 --> 01:22:45,120
uh it was hard to get those even those

2117
01:22:48,390 --> 01:22:46,320
parlays to come down

2118
01:22:49,990 --> 01:22:48,400
let alone the accounts to have any kind

2119
01:22:52,550 --> 01:22:50,000
of action taken against it

2120
01:22:53,669 --> 01:22:52,560
so now you're looking at them gone and

2121
01:22:56,470 --> 01:22:53,679
we're looking back over

2122
01:22:58,310 --> 01:22:56,480
at twitter and facebook something that

2123
01:23:01,510 --> 01:22:58,320
people have to understand is that

2124
01:23:02,550 --> 01:23:01,520
moderation at that level at that scale

2125
01:23:06,310 --> 01:23:02,560
to maintain

2126
01:23:09,510 --> 01:23:06,320
uh any form of civil society

2127
01:23:11,910 --> 01:23:09,520
is unbelievably expensive and it

2128
01:23:14,629 --> 01:23:11,920
provides no monetary value

2129
01:23:16,550 --> 01:23:14,639
meaning that facebook has an entire

2130
01:23:17,270 --> 01:23:16,560
building with multiple floors in this

2131
01:23:19,669 --> 01:23:17,280
building

2132
01:23:21,270 --> 01:23:19,679
with hundreds and hundreds of employees

2133
01:23:24,790 --> 01:23:21,280
whose job it is

2134
01:23:26,870 --> 01:23:24,800
to just sit there and moderate all day

2135
01:23:28,390 --> 01:23:26,880
they get paid salaries just to sit there

2136
01:23:30,390 --> 01:23:28,400
and go through this content

2137
01:23:33,030 --> 01:23:30,400
and find horrible things from child

2138
01:23:35,189 --> 01:23:33,040
abuse photos to death threats to

2139
01:23:36,070 --> 01:23:35,199
anything you can imagine these people do

2140
01:23:37,750 --> 01:23:36,080
not last

2141
01:23:39,350 --> 01:23:37,760
some of them don't last more than three

2142
01:23:41,110 --> 01:23:39,360
months before they can't take it

2143
01:23:43,750 --> 01:23:41,120
the trauma of what they've seen trying

2144
01:23:47,270 --> 01:23:43,760
to mod moderate on these platforms

2145
01:23:50,310 --> 01:23:47,280
so now how do you afford

2146
01:23:51,990 --> 01:23:50,320
that building existing those employees

2147
01:23:52,550 --> 01:23:52,000
doing the work it takes to keep us

2148
01:23:55,270 --> 01:23:52,560
having

2149
01:23:56,070 --> 01:23:55,280
some kind of a civil society here

2150
01:23:57,669 --> 01:23:56,080
without

2151
01:23:59,990 --> 01:23:57,679
the company behind them being large

2152
01:24:01,990 --> 01:24:00,000
enough to put

2153
01:24:03,590 --> 01:24:02,000
millions of dollars into that every year

2154
01:24:06,550 --> 01:24:03,600
even though it's just a cost

2155
01:24:08,070 --> 01:24:06,560
and it makes no money you only you only

2156
01:24:09,669 --> 01:24:08,080
afford that as a company like facebook

2157
01:24:12,229 --> 01:24:09,679
if you're as large as they are

2158
01:24:13,350 --> 01:24:12,239
like no no company that only takes one

2159
01:24:16,870 --> 01:24:13,360
little piece of

2160
01:24:18,310 --> 01:24:16,880
can afford to spend that amount of money

2161
01:24:20,950 --> 01:24:18,320
on moderation

2162
01:24:23,669 --> 01:24:20,960
and so we get stuck in this kind of

2163
01:24:26,709 --> 01:24:23,679
paradoxical situation where

2164
01:24:28,229 --> 01:24:26,719
well monopoly bad everything facebook

2165
01:24:29,590 --> 01:24:28,239
twitter and all them are doing in google

2166
01:24:32,709 --> 01:24:29,600
with their monopolies

2167
01:24:35,030 --> 01:24:32,719
bad however no moderation and

2168
01:24:35,830 --> 01:24:35,040
absolute freedom to do whatever you want

2169
01:24:38,310 --> 01:24:35,840
means

2170
01:24:40,149 --> 01:24:38,320
death threats creepers hunting people

2171
01:24:41,990 --> 01:24:40,159
down means people getting doxxed and

2172
01:24:43,910 --> 01:24:42,000
then sexually abused means

2173
01:24:45,110 --> 01:24:43,920
uh child pornography being shared all

2174
01:24:47,350 --> 01:24:45,120
over your platforms

2175
01:24:49,430 --> 01:24:47,360
so like there's got to be a middle

2176
01:24:49,669 --> 01:24:49,440
ground and i don't know where it is but

2177
01:24:54,709 --> 01:24:49,679
it's

2178
01:24:57,910 --> 01:24:54,719
without moderators

2179
01:24:58,550 --> 01:24:57,920
yeah i don't want to be there no no no

2180
01:25:00,550 --> 01:24:58,560
and

2181
01:25:02,229 --> 01:25:00,560
uh with i also don't want them to be a

2182
01:25:04,870 --> 01:25:02,239
monopoly so

2183
01:25:05,430 --> 01:25:04,880
right right right right total paradox

2184
01:25:08,790 --> 01:25:05,440
and

2185
01:25:11,750 --> 01:25:08,800
so with parlor when what i had read

2186
01:25:13,350 --> 01:25:11,760
uh back in november i don't know about

2187
01:25:15,030 --> 01:25:13,360
specifically today

2188
01:25:17,590 --> 01:25:15,040
but i had read back in november there

2189
01:25:20,629 --> 01:25:17,600
was only 25 employees there

2190
01:25:23,830 --> 01:25:20,639
how can you have uh uh

2191
01:25:24,229 --> 01:25:23,840
two or three million people uh accessing

2192
01:25:27,750 --> 01:25:24,239
your

2193
01:25:31,110 --> 01:25:27,760
site and posting in in 30 days

2194
01:25:33,270 --> 01:25:31,120
without a moderation team no matter how

2195
01:25:35,990 --> 01:25:33,280
great your automation systems are

2196
01:25:37,830 --> 01:25:36,000
how is it even possible oh it's not with

2197
01:25:39,270 --> 01:25:37,840
that size and it wasn't happening which

2198
01:25:41,189 --> 01:25:39,280
is why they started to

2199
01:25:42,870 --> 01:25:41,199
lose all of their stuff the the things

2200
01:25:45,189 --> 01:25:42,880
that you could do on that platform and

2201
01:25:48,790 --> 01:25:45,199
just completely get away with were

2202
01:25:50,149 --> 01:25:48,800
disgusting um i i fight for free speech

2203
01:25:52,950 --> 01:25:50,159
i have been in the front line

2204
01:25:54,950 --> 01:25:52,960
and and gotten my head kicked on the way

2205
01:25:57,189 --> 01:25:54,960
down a flight of stairs

2206
01:25:57,990 --> 01:25:57,199
by someone wearing a swastika on their

2207
01:26:00,950 --> 01:25:58,000
armband

2208
01:26:02,709 --> 01:26:00,960
uh defending people's free speech i i am

2209
01:26:05,590 --> 01:26:02,719
here for free speech however

2210
01:26:07,590 --> 01:26:05,600
i am not here for open death threats

2211
01:26:08,870 --> 01:26:07,600
threats of mutilation threats of sexual

2212
01:26:10,550 --> 01:26:08,880
abuse against people

2213
01:26:12,550 --> 01:26:10,560
simply for their political views which

2214
01:26:15,910 --> 01:26:12,560
is what was happening on that platform

2215
01:26:18,870 --> 01:26:15,920
all over the place um so

2216
01:26:20,229 --> 01:26:18,880
it was it was crazy me um a few other

2217
01:26:23,030 --> 01:26:20,239
people like aubrey coddle

2218
01:26:23,990 --> 01:26:23,040
um john jackson like just a bunch of us

2219
01:26:26,950 --> 01:26:24,000
went over there

2220
01:26:27,910 --> 01:26:26,960
um and tried to interact with that

2221
01:26:30,709 --> 01:26:27,920
community in any

2222
01:26:32,310 --> 01:26:30,719
sane way and i mean it was day one that

2223
01:26:34,070 --> 01:26:32,320
the first death threat hit me and day

2224
01:26:35,750 --> 01:26:34,080
two that i was completely doxed on the

2225
01:26:39,270 --> 01:26:35,760
platform

2226
01:26:43,030 --> 01:26:39,280
the uh the moderation

2227
01:26:45,590 --> 01:26:43,040
side moving forward um

2228
01:26:46,390 --> 01:26:45,600
if they are on a server network like

2229
01:26:49,510 --> 01:26:46,400
epic

2230
01:26:51,990 --> 01:26:49,520
that doesn't really care about your

2231
01:26:53,430 --> 01:26:52,000
content what about everything else that

2232
01:26:55,750 --> 01:26:53,440
comes into play here

2233
01:26:58,149 --> 01:26:55,760
um other software other things that are

2234
01:27:00,709 --> 01:26:58,159
needed on the platform to run

2235
01:27:03,430 --> 01:27:00,719
um are there terms of service and and

2236
01:27:05,590 --> 01:27:03,440
ethical standards that come into play

2237
01:27:06,870 --> 01:27:05,600
there are um it's going to be tough for

2238
01:27:09,350 --> 01:27:06,880
them to keep

2239
01:27:10,229 --> 01:27:09,360
a lot of those services alive here uh

2240
01:27:13,030 --> 01:27:10,239
with u.s

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01:27:13,669 --> 01:27:13,040
services um you know if you look at like

2242
01:27:15,750 --> 01:27:13,679
uh

2243
01:27:17,669 --> 01:27:15,760
the proud boy type of money raising

2244
01:27:19,110 --> 01:27:17,679
right they were using gofundme for a

2245
01:27:21,110 --> 01:27:19,120
long time to fund like

2246
01:27:22,390 --> 01:27:21,120
i'm going to dc gofundme doesn't allow

2247
01:27:23,110 --> 01:27:22,400
that anymore those things disappear

2248
01:27:24,790 --> 01:27:23,120
quickly

2249
01:27:26,470 --> 01:27:24,800
so we ended up with a right-wing

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01:27:28,070 --> 01:27:26,480
platform uh that

2251
01:27:29,350 --> 01:27:28,080
calls itself right-wing and christian

2252
01:27:29,830 --> 01:27:29,360
and all these other things they they're

2253
01:27:32,950 --> 01:27:29,840
really

2254
01:27:36,229 --> 01:27:32,960
targeting kind of the trumper crowd um

2255
01:27:38,070 --> 01:27:36,239
uh was a gift send go and um

2256
01:27:39,669 --> 01:27:38,080
and so they all moved there but it's a

2257
01:27:42,229 --> 01:27:39,679
much smaller platform

2258
01:27:44,950 --> 01:27:42,239
and there's there's just only them it's

2259
01:27:48,709 --> 01:27:44,960
a very echo chambery kind of a place

2260
01:27:52,229 --> 01:27:48,719
um but you you have to build your own

2261
01:27:54,709 --> 01:27:52,239
which is exactly how america works

2262
01:27:56,629 --> 01:27:54,719
if if businesses don't want to provide

2263
01:27:59,350 --> 01:27:56,639
you a service then someone

2264
01:28:01,590 --> 01:27:59,360
who agrees with you better have that

2265
01:28:04,950 --> 01:28:01,600
service available or you're in trouble

2266
01:28:06,709 --> 01:28:04,960
this is a free market and that has been

2267
01:28:08,550 --> 01:28:06,719
everything every republican has ever

2268
01:28:10,229 --> 01:28:08,560
told me they wanted was a free market

2269
01:28:11,590 --> 01:28:10,239
and to let the market choose

2270
01:28:12,870 --> 01:28:11,600
well when the market chooses that they

2271
01:28:14,390 --> 01:28:12,880
don't want to serve you you're going to

2272
01:28:16,629 --> 01:28:14,400
have to build it yourself

2273
01:28:17,910 --> 01:28:16,639
now what about nodes what about the

2274
01:28:19,990 --> 01:28:17,920
internet itself

2275
01:28:22,950 --> 01:28:20,000
and running traffic onto the internet

2276
01:28:27,510 --> 01:28:22,960
who controls that

2277
01:28:29,590 --> 01:28:27,520
there are interconnects and there are

2278
01:28:31,030 --> 01:28:29,600
different forms of routing and and

2279
01:28:34,070 --> 01:28:31,040
contracts you have to have

2280
01:28:37,750 --> 01:28:34,080
uh at these big trunks service providers

2281
01:28:40,709 --> 01:28:37,760
uh so there are big bandwidth providers

2282
01:28:41,590 --> 01:28:40,719
like uh level three uh sprint is one of

2283
01:28:43,110 --> 01:28:41,600
the bigger ones

2284
01:28:45,270 --> 01:28:43,120
uh out in the midwest they've got a big

2285
01:28:45,910 --> 01:28:45,280
hub there and the way it works is kind

2286
01:28:48,470 --> 01:28:45,920
of

2287
01:28:49,910 --> 01:28:48,480
you'll connect up with someone uh it's

2288
01:28:51,030 --> 01:28:49,920
kind of like a you know a food chain it

2289
01:28:52,790 --> 01:28:51,040
goes up right you'll connect with

2290
01:28:54,470 --> 01:28:52,800
someone local who has paid

2291
01:28:56,070 --> 01:28:54,480
for this amount of bandwidth to be

2292
01:28:57,030 --> 01:28:56,080
coming into their building where their

2293
01:28:59,030 --> 01:28:57,040
servers are

2294
01:29:00,709 --> 01:28:59,040
from the provider bigger than them from

2295
01:29:03,350 --> 01:29:00,719
the provider bigger than them

2296
01:29:05,510 --> 01:29:03,360
and so on and by the end you're at the

2297
01:29:06,229 --> 01:29:05,520
end of it and that's usually a sprint or

2298
01:29:08,709 --> 01:29:06,239
an 18 t

2299
01:29:09,830 --> 01:29:08,719
or someone of that size uh with that

2300
01:29:11,189 --> 01:29:09,840
that that amount of backbone

2301
01:29:14,070 --> 01:29:11,199
infrastructure

2302
01:29:15,510 --> 01:29:14,080
um so like here locally if i wanted to

2303
01:29:17,669 --> 01:29:15,520
put a server up that was my own hardware

2304
01:29:19,990 --> 01:29:17,679
and i wanted to walk it into a building

2305
01:29:21,430 --> 01:29:20,000
i would contract with level three and

2306
01:29:23,030 --> 01:29:21,440
then they've got a contract for the

2307
01:29:23,990 --> 01:29:23,040
lines coming out of their stuff to

2308
01:29:26,470 --> 01:29:24,000
connect up somewhere

2309
01:29:28,149 --> 01:29:26,480
you know a much bigger company and two

2310
01:29:30,229 --> 01:29:28,159
or three companies up the line

2311
01:29:31,669 --> 01:29:30,239
it's at one of those sprints or att's or

2312
01:29:33,669 --> 01:29:31,679
one of those other large companies

2313
01:29:35,990 --> 01:29:33,679
do they have the ability at that level

2314
01:29:36,550 --> 01:29:36,000
as you climb up the rings to throttle

2315
01:29:40,229 --> 01:29:36,560
traffic

2316
01:29:41,430 --> 01:29:40,239
or to stop it they um well the

2317
01:29:44,470 --> 01:29:41,440
throttling they weren't

2318
01:29:45,830 --> 01:29:44,480
allowed to legally until uh the net

2319
01:29:48,470 --> 01:29:45,840
neutrality uh

2320
01:29:49,430 --> 01:29:48,480
losses we took at the fcc uh thanks to

2321
01:29:53,430 --> 01:29:49,440
ajit pai

2322
01:29:55,510 --> 01:29:53,440
uh being in verizon in comcast's pocket

2323
01:29:58,709 --> 01:29:55,520
and doing whatever they asked of him

2324
01:30:01,590 --> 01:29:58,719
but um now they can um

2325
01:30:03,830 --> 01:30:01,600
however you know you don't get much

2326
01:30:05,669 --> 01:30:03,840
enforcement of that the contracts are

2327
01:30:08,390 --> 01:30:05,679
really clear on what they can and can't

2328
01:30:11,030 --> 01:30:08,400
do usually it's down to the lower level

2329
01:30:12,950 --> 01:30:11,040
one to make a decision it's rare that

2330
01:30:14,550 --> 01:30:12,960
like the provider like say i did put a

2331
01:30:15,990 --> 01:30:14,560
server up in level three here

2332
01:30:17,990 --> 01:30:16,000
you know just one of their co-location

2333
01:30:19,750 --> 01:30:18,000
facilities it's rare that their provider

2334
01:30:19,990 --> 01:30:19,760
would say this one client of yours needs

2335
01:30:23,750 --> 01:30:20,000
to

2336
01:30:25,110 --> 01:30:23,760
go it would take a lot of pressure now

2337
01:30:27,110 --> 01:30:25,120
that's kind of the size of pressure that

2338
01:30:28,790 --> 01:30:27,120
parlor was you know put under so

2339
01:30:31,030 --> 01:30:28,800
maybe it would have happened but that's

2340
01:30:33,189 --> 01:30:31,040
a little rarer more often than not it's

2341
01:30:35,750 --> 01:30:33,199
people who think they're going to lose

2342
01:30:37,110 --> 01:30:35,760
large clients from this and those people

2343
01:30:38,550 --> 01:30:37,120
aren't they aren't going to lose large

2344
01:30:41,110 --> 01:30:38,560
clients their clients are

2345
01:30:42,950 --> 01:30:41,120
comcast you know comcast isn't going to

2346
01:30:44,390 --> 01:30:42,960
pull from the only provider in town who

2347
01:30:46,629 --> 01:30:44,400
can provide that much bandwidth

2348
01:30:48,149 --> 01:30:46,639
they need it and there's only one one

2349
01:30:50,310 --> 01:30:48,159
place they can go

2350
01:30:51,830 --> 01:30:50,320
uh but twilio might lose some big

2351
01:30:53,510 --> 01:30:51,840
accounts um

2352
01:30:55,030 --> 01:30:53,520
if they don't kick parlor because people

2353
01:30:57,189 --> 01:30:55,040
will move because there's three or four

2354
01:30:58,629 --> 01:30:57,199
other services that are just as good

2355
01:31:00,070 --> 01:30:58,639
let's take our break right here our

2356
01:31:00,470 --> 01:31:00,080
guests tonight the one and only greg

2357
01:31:03,590 --> 01:31:00,480
house

2358
01:31:07,110 --> 01:31:03,600
lots to talk about big tech big drama

2359
01:31:09,669 --> 01:31:07,120
i am your host jimmy church this is

2360
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on the game changer network and kgra the

2361
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way out here we listen to jimmy church

2362
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2366
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2367
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2371
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2372
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2373
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2374
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supply

2375
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2376
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2377
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2378
01:32:28,950 --> 01:32:26,000
you can do

2379
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today is to stockpile emergency food

2380
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2381
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2382
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2388
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2389
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2390
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provide 2

2393
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2410
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2411
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jimmy church

2412
01:34:10,149 --> 01:34:08,800
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2413
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not be televised

2414
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2415
01:34:59,510 --> 01:34:58,229
welcome back feed to black i'm your host

2416
01:35:00,709 --> 01:34:59,520
jimmy church our guest tonight greg

2417
01:35:02,870 --> 01:35:00,719
house more with greg

2418
01:35:05,830 --> 01:35:02,880
in just a minute we're talking about big

2419
01:35:08,390 --> 01:35:05,840
tech big problems big issues

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in the near future

2426
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this scares me the same way banks use

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2428
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2429
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2430
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um now greg um the list of tech

2443
01:36:01,109 --> 01:35:57,760
companies

2444
01:36:04,550 --> 01:36:01,119
uh right now uh aside from the banks

2445
01:36:07,109 --> 01:36:04,560
that um have banned trump

2446
01:36:09,109 --> 01:36:07,119
we've got uh president trump we've got

2447
01:36:11,270 --> 01:36:09,119
reddit we've got twitch we've got

2448
01:36:13,189 --> 01:36:11,280
shopify we've got twitter we've got

2449
01:36:15,590 --> 01:36:13,199
google we've got youtube

2450
01:36:16,629 --> 01:36:15,600
we've got facebook we have instagram

2451
01:36:19,990 --> 01:36:16,639
snapchat

2452
01:36:22,790 --> 01:36:20,000
tick tock apple of course discord

2453
01:36:24,790 --> 01:36:22,800
and pinterest i can't i guess he can't

2454
01:36:28,229 --> 01:36:24,800
post any more pictures of the rustic

2455
01:36:31,590 --> 01:36:28,239
kitchen over in the white house but um

2456
01:36:34,629 --> 01:36:31,600
of course uh uh stripe

2457
01:36:37,109 --> 01:36:34,639
is now uh in play uh

2458
01:36:38,709 --> 01:36:37,119
of course octa with parlor and so forth

2459
01:36:41,750 --> 01:36:38,719
and twilio

2460
01:36:43,990 --> 01:36:41,760
um is this a way uh

2461
01:36:44,790 --> 01:36:44,000
to establish somebody like persona non

2462
01:36:46,550 --> 01:36:44,800
grata

2463
01:36:48,790 --> 01:36:46,560
you know to just take them out of

2464
01:36:52,709 --> 01:36:48,800
society is this effectively

2465
01:36:56,390 --> 01:36:52,719
uh uh what could happen

2466
01:36:58,149 --> 01:36:56,400
uh i mean i i don't think it's necessary

2467
01:37:01,030 --> 01:36:58,159
at that level in that

2468
01:37:02,870 --> 01:37:01,040
his own exact words were if i lose this

2469
01:37:04,709 --> 01:37:02,880
uh you'll never see me again

2470
01:37:06,310 --> 01:37:04,719
and i'm really hoping that that comes

2471
01:37:08,629 --> 01:37:06,320
true but uh

2472
01:37:10,229 --> 01:37:08,639
yeah this uh you know again this is the

2473
01:37:12,070 --> 01:37:10,239
free market speaking they've decided

2474
01:37:13,030 --> 01:37:12,080
they don't want his disinformation

2475
01:37:16,629 --> 01:37:13,040
anymore

2476
01:37:19,669 --> 01:37:16,639
is this uh is this dangerous

2477
01:37:23,430 --> 01:37:19,679
uh for everybody and let me let me back

2478
01:37:25,990 --> 01:37:23,440
up yeah i remember uh

2479
01:37:28,149 --> 01:37:26,000
conversations about you know having uh

2480
01:37:30,550 --> 01:37:28,159
your your banking info

2481
01:37:32,149 --> 01:37:30,560
uh embedded in a chip you know in your

2482
01:37:35,109 --> 01:37:32,159
right hand or whatever

2483
01:37:36,870 --> 01:37:35,119
no more cash money cashless society and

2484
01:37:38,310 --> 01:37:36,880
if they wanted to turn you off you know

2485
01:37:40,470 --> 01:37:38,320
it's like the movie uh you know

2486
01:37:41,669 --> 01:37:40,480
like black mirror right they want to

2487
01:37:43,990 --> 01:37:41,679
turn you off

2488
01:37:45,270 --> 01:37:44,000
you're turned off you know you can't

2489
01:37:47,990 --> 01:37:45,280
outrun big tech

2490
01:37:48,629 --> 01:37:48,000
and if if they choose to do that to you

2491
01:37:50,310 --> 01:37:48,639
you can't

2492
01:37:52,870 --> 01:37:50,320
fight back and get the switch turned

2493
01:37:54,550 --> 01:37:52,880
back down because you're angry

2494
01:37:55,910 --> 01:37:54,560
you know it doesn't it doesn't work that

2495
01:37:57,750 --> 01:37:55,920
way um

2496
01:38:00,229 --> 01:37:57,760
if it can happen to president trump it

2497
01:38:03,590 --> 01:38:00,239
can happen to anybody right

2498
01:38:05,590 --> 01:38:03,600
sure i mean but again it takes a hell of

2499
01:38:07,910 --> 01:38:05,600
a lot to get people here it took four

2500
01:38:09,350 --> 01:38:07,920
years of this to get to get them there

2501
01:38:12,390 --> 01:38:09,360
and it took people finally

2502
01:38:15,510 --> 01:38:12,400
storming the capitol building and

2503
01:38:18,229 --> 01:38:15,520
killing cops for uh

2504
01:38:19,350 --> 01:38:18,239
for for this to happen so like unless

2505
01:38:22,550 --> 01:38:19,360
you're at that

2506
01:38:24,229 --> 01:38:22,560
level you shouldn't fear any any fear of

2507
01:38:26,790 --> 01:38:24,239
this happening to you

2508
01:38:27,430 --> 01:38:26,800
uh unless you're at that literal level

2509
01:38:31,270 --> 01:38:27,440
is uh

2510
01:38:35,270 --> 01:38:31,280
undo paranoia and you should seek help

2511
01:38:36,390 --> 01:38:35,280
okay i wish everybody could see greg's

2512
01:38:39,430 --> 01:38:36,400
face

2513
01:38:42,149 --> 01:38:39,440
um but uh

2514
01:38:44,149 --> 01:38:42,159
is this self-importance is a problem in

2515
01:38:46,070 --> 01:38:44,159
our society these days and uh

2516
01:38:47,669 --> 01:38:46,080
you this isn't gonna happen to anyone

2517
01:38:48,390 --> 01:38:47,679
that's not at that level it's just not i

2518
01:38:51,030 --> 01:38:48,400
mean

2519
01:38:53,270 --> 01:38:51,040
it's too much effort and work and pr and

2520
01:38:56,629 --> 01:38:53,280
legal and blah blah blah

2521
01:38:59,990 --> 01:38:56,639
you have to earn this right right

2522
01:39:03,189 --> 01:39:00,000
and um the

2523
01:39:05,510 --> 01:39:03,199
the ability to do this for

2524
01:39:07,830 --> 01:39:05,520
uh somebody like stripe and you know

2525
01:39:10,470 --> 01:39:07,840
today it was a deutsche bank

2526
01:39:11,669 --> 01:39:10,480
uh you know cutting off the money supply

2527
01:39:15,590 --> 01:39:11,679
um

2528
01:39:19,590 --> 01:39:15,600
this this is where it's

2529
01:39:22,470 --> 01:39:19,600
is there no fear right is there no fear

2530
01:39:24,629 --> 01:39:22,480
the the repercussions of of what

2531
01:39:27,189 --> 01:39:24,639
president trump can or cannot do

2532
01:39:30,149 --> 01:39:27,199
right is this not a concern for anybody

2533
01:39:33,590 --> 01:39:31,590
i don't think i fully understand i mean

2534
01:39:35,510 --> 01:39:33,600
it's not a concern for me i i've been

2535
01:39:37,030 --> 01:39:35,520
begging for him to absolutely disappear

2536
01:39:41,990 --> 01:39:37,040
from every platform uh

2537
01:39:44,550 --> 01:39:42,000
since before he was elected so

2538
01:39:45,990 --> 01:39:44,560
um i'm looking at this now i won't tell

2539
01:39:49,430 --> 01:39:46,000
anybody what i'm looking at

2540
01:39:51,109 --> 01:39:49,440
let me see if i can blow it up okay i'll

2541
01:39:55,030 --> 01:39:51,119
examine this later

2542
01:39:58,870 --> 01:39:55,040
yeah yeah so it's it's an interesting uh

2543
01:40:02,390 --> 01:39:58,880
you know archive page there

2544
01:40:05,750 --> 01:40:02,400
i don't know what to say and uh uh

2545
01:40:06,870 --> 01:40:05,760
let's uh let's let's get just continue

2546
01:40:10,470 --> 01:40:06,880
the conversation

2547
01:40:13,990 --> 01:40:10,480
the um the world now

2548
01:40:15,189 --> 01:40:14,000
is fully engaged in what the internet is

2549
01:40:17,830 --> 01:40:15,199
the internet is

2550
01:40:19,430 --> 01:40:17,840
uh way beyond social media platforms

2551
01:40:20,310 --> 01:40:19,440
it's our infrastructure it's our

2552
01:40:22,149 --> 01:40:20,320
electricity

2553
01:40:24,950 --> 01:40:22,159
it's our flight systems it's airplanes

2554
01:40:27,510 --> 01:40:24,960
it's logistics it's trucks it's boats

2555
01:40:27,990 --> 01:40:27,520
uh it's absolutely everything in your

2556
01:40:30,470 --> 01:40:28,000
world

2557
01:40:32,550 --> 01:40:30,480
groceries you listen to your music over

2558
01:40:34,870 --> 01:40:32,560
it you can do your banking over it

2559
01:40:36,149 --> 01:40:34,880
it's it's everything you can do

2560
01:40:37,750 --> 01:40:36,159
everything on the internet and i

2561
01:40:39,910 --> 01:40:37,760
remember when that wasn't possible i've

2562
01:40:40,470 --> 01:40:39,920
i've watched as it grew like this from

2563
01:40:43,270 --> 01:40:40,480
you know

2564
01:40:43,990 --> 01:40:43,280
i i first got on all the way back in 92

2565
01:40:45,750 --> 01:40:44,000
and uh

2566
01:40:47,510 --> 01:40:45,760
so before it even went public and so

2567
01:40:50,790 --> 01:40:47,520
i've gotten to watch it grow

2568
01:40:52,149 --> 01:40:50,800
and uh yeah early on it was just this

2569
01:40:54,550 --> 01:40:52,159
thing off to the side

2570
01:40:55,830 --> 01:40:54,560
now i couldn't live without it and

2571
01:40:58,310 --> 01:40:55,840
nobody could

2572
01:40:59,109 --> 01:40:58,320
i mean that's it every element of your

2573
01:41:01,430 --> 01:40:59,119
life

2574
01:41:02,310 --> 01:41:01,440
from when you wake up until you go to

2575
01:41:04,629 --> 01:41:02,320
bed

2576
01:41:06,470 --> 01:41:04,639
everything every step every minute of

2577
01:41:09,229 --> 01:41:06,480
your day somehow

2578
01:41:10,550 --> 01:41:09,239
is dependent on the internet all of it

2579
01:41:13,270 --> 01:41:10,560
everything

2580
01:41:15,189 --> 01:41:13,280
period most people don't understand that

2581
01:41:17,189 --> 01:41:15,199
i imagine a world where i get to just go

2582
01:41:18,950 --> 01:41:17,199
off and build a log cabin and ignore it

2583
01:41:21,350 --> 01:41:18,960
all but um

2584
01:41:22,310 --> 01:41:21,360
activism seems to be who i am so i just

2585
01:41:25,030 --> 01:41:22,320
can't stop it

2586
01:41:25,990 --> 01:41:25,040
but uh man it would be nice to just walk

2587
01:41:29,990 --> 01:41:26,000
away from it

2588
01:41:32,870 --> 01:41:30,000
now and i bring this up because

2589
01:41:33,510 --> 01:41:32,880
the chatter that is going on out there

2590
01:41:37,350 --> 01:41:33,520
um

2591
01:41:40,629 --> 01:41:37,360
with twitter removing uh

2592
01:41:43,189 --> 01:41:40,639
the real donald trump account caused

2593
01:41:45,109 --> 01:41:43,199
the stock to crash they lost five

2594
01:41:46,550 --> 01:41:45,119
billion dollars some were saying it's 12

2595
01:41:50,149 --> 01:41:46,560
billion dollars

2596
01:41:52,070 --> 01:41:50,159
in the big in the long game does jack

2597
01:41:54,070 --> 01:41:52,080
dorsey care about that

2598
01:41:55,910 --> 01:41:54,080
not at all his other companies like

2599
01:41:56,870 --> 01:41:55,920
square and whatnot are worth so much

2600
01:41:58,790 --> 01:41:56,880
that it just

2601
01:42:00,149 --> 01:41:58,800
it's it's stupid amounts of money it

2602
01:42:01,510 --> 01:42:00,159
just it doesn't like

2603
01:42:03,350 --> 01:42:01,520
matter the only thing that would matter

2604
01:42:04,950 --> 01:42:03,360
to him is if his investors

2605
01:42:06,870 --> 01:42:04,960
his you know the shareholders and

2606
01:42:07,350 --> 01:42:06,880
whatnot came at him for it but they

2607
01:42:10,390 --> 01:42:07,360
didn't

2608
01:42:12,310 --> 01:42:10,400
they they agreed with the banning uh

2609
01:42:14,229 --> 01:42:12,320
so you know in the end remember these

2610
01:42:16,870 --> 01:42:14,239
these types of public companies

2611
01:42:18,070 --> 01:42:16,880
aren't uh aren't there for anything

2612
01:42:19,270 --> 01:42:18,080
other than making money for the

2613
01:42:20,870 --> 01:42:19,280
shareholders so

2614
01:42:22,950 --> 01:42:20,880
if you do something that could be

2615
01:42:25,030 --> 01:42:22,960
considered a mistake the only real

2616
01:42:26,310 --> 01:42:25,040
mistake would be the shareholders then

2617
01:42:27,669 --> 01:42:26,320
coming for your job

2618
01:42:29,430 --> 01:42:27,679
you know and they aren't they aren't

2619
01:42:32,390 --> 01:42:29,440
coming for his job on this one

2620
01:42:32,870 --> 01:42:32,400
and so in the you know a five billion

2621
01:42:36,310 --> 01:42:32,880
dollar

2622
01:42:38,870 --> 01:42:36,320
loss uh to jack he understands that

2623
01:42:39,590 --> 01:42:38,880
he is at a level in in the world of

2624
01:42:42,709 --> 01:42:39,600
money

2625
01:42:45,189 --> 01:42:42,719
that you and i or this audience know

2626
01:42:45,990 --> 01:42:45,199
nothing about right and we never will

2627
01:42:48,629 --> 01:42:46,000
the game of

2628
01:42:49,270 --> 01:42:48,639
capitalism he he is at the top he's he's

2629
01:42:51,430 --> 01:42:49,280
one he

2630
01:42:53,750 --> 01:42:51,440
he he's good at that video game much

2631
01:42:56,470 --> 01:42:53,760
like bezos and a few others it's it's

2632
01:42:57,510 --> 01:42:56,480
for some reason his head works that way

2633
01:43:00,629 --> 01:42:57,520
he doesn't

2634
01:43:03,590 --> 01:43:00,639
the uh that's right um

2635
01:43:04,550 --> 01:43:03,600
uh now i've said this before but i'll

2636
01:43:06,550 --> 01:43:04,560
say this

2637
01:43:08,790 --> 01:43:06,560
you know i've met jack i've hung out

2638
01:43:10,390 --> 01:43:08,800
with jack he follows me on twitter i

2639
01:43:11,669 --> 01:43:10,400
follow him he helped me set up my

2640
01:43:13,910 --> 01:43:11,679
twitter account

2641
01:43:15,030 --> 01:43:13,920
uh back in the day in 2008 i've told you

2642
01:43:18,390 --> 01:43:15,040
about that before

2643
01:43:21,750 --> 01:43:18,400
yep and uh i gotta tell you man

2644
01:43:22,950 --> 01:43:21,760
pretty cool dude i've never had any

2645
01:43:25,270 --> 01:43:22,960
problems with him

2646
01:43:25,990 --> 01:43:25,280
he's a pretty cool guy put the picture

2647
01:43:29,350 --> 01:43:26,000
up

2648
01:43:32,870 --> 01:43:29,360
on the stream

2649
01:43:34,149 --> 01:43:32,880
oh oh i didn't it's gone i did

2650
01:43:36,310 --> 01:43:34,159
no i didn't it was there for a quick

2651
01:43:37,830 --> 01:43:36,320
second no i'm yours

2652
01:43:39,669 --> 01:43:37,840
you can screen capture that that's the

2653
01:43:43,510 --> 01:43:39,679
picture i sent him no that's

2654
01:43:46,149 --> 01:43:43,520
yours only you see that nobody else does

2655
01:43:48,470 --> 01:43:46,159
not on my feed no no no no no this is

2656
01:43:49,990 --> 01:43:48,480
closed circuit bro

2657
01:43:51,590 --> 01:43:50,000
chad did you see it just just tell him

2658
01:43:54,629 --> 01:43:51,600
if you saw it

2659
01:43:56,390 --> 01:43:54,639
impossible i hope not

2660
01:43:57,750 --> 01:43:56,400
yeah yeah impossible i hope so actually

2661
01:44:00,149 --> 01:43:57,760
because i think it's funny

2662
01:44:01,430 --> 01:44:00,159
impossible if anybody knew what we were

2663
01:44:06,229 --> 01:44:01,440
talking about

2664
01:44:08,550 --> 01:44:06,239
um okay is is this uh when we look at uh

2665
01:44:11,350 --> 01:44:08,560
facebook and everything went down with

2666
01:44:12,709 --> 01:44:11,360
with with cambridge and and zuck and

2667
01:44:14,790 --> 01:44:12,719
and the senate and congress and

2668
01:44:18,950 --> 01:44:14,800
everything else and then the

2669
01:44:18,960 --> 01:44:31,990
the person

2670
01:44:37,669 --> 01:44:35,030
one percent of their advertising income

2671
01:44:38,790 --> 01:44:37,679
yeah i mean it didn't hurt them at all

2672
01:44:41,030 --> 01:44:38,800
it was not noticeable

2673
01:44:42,229 --> 01:44:41,040
no no no and it was gained back

2674
01:44:45,510 --> 01:44:42,239
immediately

2675
01:44:46,950 --> 01:44:45,520
right yeah and so this mass exodus as

2676
01:44:47,990 --> 01:44:46,960
some people are saying is occurring

2677
01:44:50,629 --> 01:44:48,000
right now

2678
01:44:52,070 --> 01:44:50,639
with twitter and going elsewhere it is

2679
01:44:53,510 --> 01:44:52,080
nothing that affects the company's

2680
01:44:56,149 --> 01:44:53,520
bottom line in the long run

2681
01:44:57,830 --> 01:44:56,159
right again jack is not enough people i

2682
01:44:59,189 --> 01:44:57,840
mean you've got millions and millions

2683
01:45:02,470 --> 01:44:59,199
and millions of users

2684
01:45:04,790 --> 01:45:02,480
and views every day and 70

2685
01:45:05,590 --> 01:45:04,800
000 people might not come back i have

2686
01:45:07,350 --> 01:45:05,600
tweeted things

2687
01:45:09,990 --> 01:45:07,360
on my own account that have gotten that

2688
01:45:11,109 --> 01:45:10,000
many views in one day from just like my

2689
01:45:13,189 --> 01:45:11,119
followers

2690
01:45:14,830 --> 01:45:13,199
and and retweets like that that is not a

2691
01:45:16,149 --> 01:45:14,840
number that is significant to that

2692
01:45:19,189 --> 01:45:16,159
company um

2693
01:45:21,990 --> 01:45:19,199
at all and it's the same thing with

2694
01:45:22,550 --> 01:45:22,000
stripe it's the same thing with deutsche

2695
01:45:24,229 --> 01:45:22,560
bank

2696
01:45:25,910 --> 01:45:24,239
right it's the same thing with all of

2697
01:45:29,669 --> 01:45:25,920
these in the big play

2698
01:45:31,510 --> 01:45:29,679
in the future by by doing this in this

2699
01:45:33,910 --> 01:45:31,520
type of cancel culture whatever

2700
01:45:36,790 --> 01:45:33,920
you want to talk about it it doesn't

2701
01:45:39,350 --> 01:45:36,800
affect their bottom line

2702
01:45:40,950 --> 01:45:39,360
no not in that way i mean cancer culture

2703
01:45:42,390 --> 01:45:40,960
can be talked about in all kinds of ways

2704
01:45:43,669 --> 01:45:42,400
you know but i i know that's not what

2705
01:45:44,070 --> 01:45:43,679
the episode's about tonight but some

2706
01:45:47,669 --> 01:45:44,080
people

2707
01:45:51,109 --> 01:45:47,679
you know deserve the cancelling you know

2708
01:45:54,310 --> 01:45:51,119
uh the uh uh the next uh

2709
01:45:57,910 --> 01:45:54,320
stage of this conversation is that

2710
01:45:58,870 --> 01:45:57,920
with the way that it is now in our life

2711
01:46:02,229 --> 01:45:58,880
and i'm talking about

2712
01:46:04,709 --> 01:46:02,239
the internet in general when we look at

2713
01:46:06,470 --> 01:46:04,719
uh twitter or facebook or anything else

2714
01:46:09,510 --> 01:46:06,480
the majority

2715
01:46:11,189 --> 01:46:09,520
of the vast amount of users

2716
01:46:13,270 --> 01:46:11,199
are there for entertainment they're

2717
01:46:13,990 --> 01:46:13,280
there for sports they're there for other

2718
01:46:15,669 --> 01:46:14,000
reasons

2719
01:46:17,430 --> 01:46:15,679
and they're not there for politics

2720
01:46:18,070 --> 01:46:17,440
they're not there for this and they're

2721
01:46:21,109 --> 01:46:18,080
not

2722
01:46:22,390 --> 01:46:21,119
they we may be talking about it but most

2723
01:46:24,390 --> 01:46:22,400
people don't even know that this is

2724
01:46:27,270 --> 01:46:24,400
going on

2725
01:46:27,669 --> 01:46:27,280
yeah my family uh you know were i mean

2726
01:46:29,109 --> 01:46:27,679
the

2727
01:46:30,550 --> 01:46:29,119
you know hearing how i talk and

2728
01:46:32,229 --> 01:46:30,560
everything it's funny to say but like my

2729
01:46:32,550 --> 01:46:32,239
whole family down in texas uh where i'm

2730
01:46:34,870 --> 01:46:32,560
from

2731
01:46:36,629 --> 01:46:34,880
uh are trump supporting trump voters who

2732
01:46:38,149 --> 01:46:36,639
voted for him both times

2733
01:46:40,709 --> 01:46:38,159
uh but even they when they're on

2734
01:46:42,629 --> 01:46:40,719
facebook they ignore all political stuff

2735
01:46:44,149 --> 01:46:42,639
they literally are there to

2736
01:46:46,550 --> 01:46:44,159
share pictures of their nieces and

2737
01:46:50,790 --> 01:46:46,560
nephews and interact with each other

2738
01:46:54,470 --> 01:46:50,800
and uh the uh

2739
01:46:56,870 --> 01:46:54,480
the inauguration is uh is on the 20th is

2740
01:46:58,550 --> 01:46:56,880
is there going to be a throttling back

2741
01:47:01,350 --> 01:46:58,560
of this chatter uh

2742
01:47:02,149 --> 01:47:01,360
the reason why i bring this up is

2743
01:47:05,030 --> 01:47:02,159
yesterday

2744
01:47:06,470 --> 01:47:05,040
on on all of the media outlets uh it

2745
01:47:08,470 --> 01:47:06,480
doesn't matter who

2746
01:47:10,629 --> 01:47:08,480
uh talked about the you know armed

2747
01:47:12,870 --> 01:47:10,639
things happening in every state capital

2748
01:47:14,709 --> 01:47:12,880
you know across the united states and i

2749
01:47:17,830 --> 01:47:14,719
look at that as fear

2750
01:47:21,669 --> 01:47:17,840
and now i'm bringing the media back in

2751
01:47:24,310 --> 01:47:21,679
as as i was in a telegram chat just

2752
01:47:26,629 --> 01:47:24,320
yesterday morning that had 265 000

2753
01:47:28,950 --> 01:47:26,639
people in it that ran a poll on whether

2754
01:47:30,709 --> 01:47:28,960
when we do this on the 17th and the 20th

2755
01:47:33,830 --> 01:47:30,719
we should bring our guns or not

2756
01:47:37,830 --> 01:47:33,840
and it got 241 000 votes

2757
01:47:40,550 --> 01:47:37,840
and it was 98 armed and ready

2758
01:47:42,310 --> 01:47:40,560
was the winner the other chat that those

2759
01:47:43,830 --> 01:47:42,320
same people who run that one were

2760
01:47:45,669 --> 01:47:43,840
running on telegram

2761
01:47:47,750 --> 01:47:45,679
uh had about 12 000 people and it was a

2762
01:47:50,870 --> 01:47:47,760
more concentrated organizing chat

2763
01:47:52,470 --> 01:47:50,880
and they put up one um who uh would you

2764
01:47:56,070 --> 01:47:52,480
rather raise your children

2765
01:47:58,790 --> 01:47:56,080
a liberal or a nazi 88

2766
01:48:00,550 --> 01:47:58,800
nazi now uh and this is the same group

2767
01:48:02,790 --> 01:48:00,560
of people who organized

2768
01:48:03,990 --> 01:48:02,800
in the background with people like ali

2769
01:48:06,390 --> 01:48:04,000
and all the others

2770
01:48:08,229 --> 01:48:06,400
the uh the the sixth but they also

2771
01:48:08,950 --> 01:48:08,239
helped organize the stop the steel event

2772
01:48:11,030 --> 01:48:08,960
you know

2773
01:48:12,310 --> 01:48:11,040
uh a month ago that happened down there

2774
01:48:15,030 --> 01:48:12,320
you know uh all

2775
01:48:16,390 --> 01:48:15,040
you know pat king and all them uh these

2776
01:48:18,229 --> 01:48:16,400
are their chat rooms

2777
01:48:19,590 --> 01:48:18,239
uh that they're running uh most of the

2778
01:48:20,070 --> 01:48:19,600
people who left parlor and all that like

2779
01:48:22,950 --> 01:48:20,080
dan

2780
01:48:23,750 --> 01:48:22,960
bondino he'd like all those people

2781
01:48:25,910 --> 01:48:23,760
they've set up

2782
01:48:26,790 --> 01:48:25,920
big there's even an official freaking

2783
01:48:29,910 --> 01:48:26,800
trump uh

2784
01:48:30,390 --> 01:48:29,920
chat room now on on telegram like that

2785
01:48:32,229 --> 01:48:30,400
has like

2786
01:48:33,830 --> 01:48:32,239
300 000 something people like that

2787
01:48:35,350 --> 01:48:33,840
that's where they all went and i was in

2788
01:48:37,590 --> 01:48:35,360
some of their private ones

2789
01:48:39,830 --> 01:48:37,600
uh with one of my uh sock puppets and

2790
01:48:41,669 --> 01:48:39,840
they were

2791
01:48:43,030 --> 01:48:41,679
maybe they don't show up but man were

2792
01:48:46,790 --> 01:48:43,040
they planning it

2793
01:48:47,990 --> 01:48:46,800
the uh uh the divisiveness that is

2794
01:48:51,109 --> 01:48:48,000
happening right now

2795
01:48:54,790 --> 01:48:51,119
i posted up in uh twitter today

2796
01:48:57,510 --> 01:48:54,800
um i said this let me uh let me get the

2797
01:48:58,550 --> 01:48:57,520
wording of it correct i said uh blue

2798
01:49:01,109 --> 01:48:58,560
must hate red

2799
01:49:02,709 --> 01:49:01,119
red must hate blue you are follow you

2800
01:49:05,430 --> 01:49:02,719
are falling for their plan

2801
01:49:07,030 --> 01:49:05,440
and they are laughing at you and and i

2802
01:49:10,149 --> 01:49:07,040
posted that up on twitter and

2803
01:49:12,709 --> 01:49:10,159
and and we are all witnessing

2804
01:49:15,030 --> 01:49:12,719
um people hating their neighbors now

2805
01:49:17,750 --> 01:49:15,040
right this distrust

2806
01:49:19,669 --> 01:49:17,760
um it's fueled by not only social media

2807
01:49:22,149 --> 01:49:19,679
but it's fueled by the media

2808
01:49:23,270 --> 01:49:22,159
themselves where these lines have been

2809
01:49:26,830 --> 01:49:23,280
drawn

2810
01:49:29,910 --> 01:49:26,840
and and suddenly were were a divided

2811
01:49:31,350 --> 01:49:29,920
country is is the mass media just as

2812
01:49:34,709 --> 01:49:31,360
responsible for this as

2813
01:49:36,470 --> 01:49:34,719
as social media absolutely they both

2814
01:49:38,310 --> 01:49:36,480
have the same responsibility in terms of

2815
01:49:41,270 --> 01:49:38,320
um

2816
01:49:42,070 --> 01:49:41,280
driving the narrative for views you know

2817
01:49:44,790 --> 01:49:42,080
when you look at

2818
01:49:46,629 --> 01:49:44,800
uh everything from fox to on to newsmax

2819
01:49:49,030 --> 01:49:46,639
to cnn msnbc

2820
01:49:51,030 --> 01:49:49,040
they need money from their uh

2821
01:49:51,830 --> 01:49:51,040
advertisers those advertisers need to

2822
01:49:54,830 --> 01:49:51,840
see numbers

2823
01:50:09,750 --> 01:49:54,840
the way you get numbers is

2824
01:50:13,750 --> 01:50:12,149
that's all of the uh the uh telegram

2825
01:50:15,430 --> 01:50:13,760
channels that they set up a couple days

2826
01:50:17,189 --> 01:50:15,440
ago to start migrating people so they

2827
01:50:19,990 --> 01:50:17,199
could keep following

2828
01:50:20,390 --> 01:50:20,000
uh and and like i mean like look at that

2829
01:50:24,149 --> 01:50:20,400
yeah

2830
01:50:26,070 --> 01:50:24,159
i'm i'm reading it now that's uh about

2831
01:50:27,990 --> 01:50:26,080
half of those were banned uh last night

2832
01:50:30,550 --> 01:50:28,000
by uh telegram

2833
01:50:31,430 --> 01:50:30,560
very interesting and uh let me take a

2834
01:50:36,629 --> 01:50:31,440
look okay

2835
01:50:39,109 --> 01:50:36,639
so um do you expect or do you

2836
01:50:40,310 --> 01:50:39,119
see in the future for this on the side

2837
01:50:41,990 --> 01:50:40,320
of the media

2838
01:50:43,830 --> 01:50:42,000
and and trying to bring down the

2839
01:50:45,990 --> 01:50:43,840
temperature i think that

2840
01:50:47,910 --> 01:50:46,000
the majority of this country wants to

2841
01:50:48,790 --> 01:50:47,920
move forward and put this stuff behind

2842
01:50:51,990 --> 01:50:48,800
us

2843
01:50:54,390 --> 01:50:52,000
but it's the media that can that

2844
01:50:56,709 --> 01:50:54,400
should help with all of this and and

2845
01:50:59,830 --> 01:50:56,719
coming forward

2846
01:51:02,470 --> 01:50:59,840
has things just gone too far

2847
01:51:03,750 --> 01:51:02,480
yeah way too far uh but no i i don't see

2848
01:51:05,830 --> 01:51:03,760
that happening at all uh

2849
01:51:07,510 --> 01:51:05,840
most of the the media especially things

2850
01:51:07,910 --> 01:51:07,520
like fox news i mean they've been clear

2851
01:51:10,070 --> 01:51:07,920
in

2852
01:51:11,589 --> 01:51:10,080
multiple court cases about the fact that

2853
01:51:14,229 --> 01:51:11,599
they don't have to tell the truth

2854
01:51:14,870 --> 01:51:14,239
literally in in a case uh uh with tucker

2855
01:51:16,310 --> 01:51:14,880
carlson

2856
01:51:17,669 --> 01:51:16,320
they called themselves an entertainment

2857
01:51:19,669 --> 01:51:17,679
company and said that they don't have to

2858
01:51:21,270 --> 01:51:19,679
adhere to any journalistic standards

2859
01:51:22,870 --> 01:51:21,280
that they don't have to tell the truth

2860
01:51:26,550 --> 01:51:22,880
that his entire show is

2861
01:51:28,629 --> 01:51:26,560
entertainment um and they do that

2862
01:51:29,109 --> 01:51:28,639
because they're feeding a narrative that

2863
01:51:30,870 --> 01:51:29,119
their

2864
01:51:32,390 --> 01:51:30,880
you know billionaire backers want them

2865
01:51:34,550 --> 01:51:32,400
to um

2866
01:51:35,830 --> 01:51:34,560
and you know the other side isn't any

2867
01:51:38,950 --> 01:51:35,840
better at that uh

2868
01:51:41,030 --> 01:51:38,960
they're all feeding their narratives um

2869
01:51:42,629 --> 01:51:41,040
and they're all politically minded uh

2870
01:51:43,270 --> 01:51:42,639
they're all aligned with the different

2871
01:51:45,990 --> 01:51:43,280
parties

2872
01:51:46,470 --> 01:51:46,000
and the thing that i will say is that

2873
01:51:48,709 --> 01:51:46,480
you know

2874
01:51:50,390 --> 01:51:48,719
in order for these media companies to

2875
01:51:51,510 --> 01:51:50,400
change in any way that would be positive

2876
01:51:53,830 --> 01:51:51,520
for society

2877
01:51:55,910 --> 01:51:53,840
you would need pressure from politicians

2878
01:51:58,470 --> 01:51:55,920
the politicians don't want that either

2879
01:51:59,430 --> 01:51:58,480
we live in a a society that is a false

2880
01:52:02,950 --> 01:51:59,440
dichotomy

2881
01:52:05,109 --> 01:52:02,960
this duality of red versus blue of

2882
01:52:06,229 --> 01:52:05,119
you know republicans democrats like the

2883
01:52:09,030 --> 01:52:06,239
thing that people

2884
01:52:10,870 --> 01:52:09,040
don't seem to grasp when they just vote

2885
01:52:13,030 --> 01:52:10,880
hard red or hard blue

2886
01:52:14,709 --> 01:52:13,040
is that um when you get to the top of

2887
01:52:17,350 --> 01:52:14,719
those two parties

2888
01:52:18,149 --> 01:52:17,360
they love each other um the the

2889
01:52:21,030 --> 01:52:18,159
republican

2890
01:52:22,470 --> 01:52:21,040
party and the gop itself generates most

2891
01:52:23,910 --> 01:52:22,480
of its donations

2892
01:52:26,629 --> 01:52:23,920
because they get to point at the

2893
01:52:27,350 --> 01:52:26,639
democrats and say you can't let them get

2894
01:52:29,510 --> 01:52:27,360
elected

2895
01:52:32,149 --> 01:52:29,520
because you hate them right and the

2896
01:52:33,589 --> 01:52:32,159
democrats get most of their donations

2897
01:52:35,830 --> 01:52:33,599
because they get to look at their base

2898
01:52:37,350 --> 01:52:35,840
and say you don't want those evil people

2899
01:52:38,470 --> 01:52:37,360
who don't believe in climate change to

2900
01:52:40,310 --> 01:52:38,480
get elected right

2901
01:52:42,149 --> 01:52:40,320
right so the democrats aren't anywhere

2902
01:52:43,750 --> 01:52:42,159
near as powerful as they could be

2903
01:52:45,030 --> 01:52:43,760
if the republicans are destroyed the

2904
01:52:46,229 --> 01:52:45,040
republicans aren't anywhere near as

2905
01:52:47,830 --> 01:52:46,239
powerful as they are

2906
01:52:49,669 --> 01:52:47,840
if the democrats are destroyed so they

2907
01:52:50,390 --> 01:52:49,679
want each other to exist and be just as

2908
01:52:52,709 --> 01:52:50,400
powerful

2909
01:52:54,149 --> 01:52:52,719
as they are so at those top levels where

2910
01:52:56,950 --> 01:52:54,159
decisions could be made

2911
01:52:58,950 --> 01:52:56,960
where power shifts could be pushed where

2912
01:53:00,470 --> 01:52:58,960
media companies could be regulated in

2913
01:53:02,310 --> 01:53:00,480
any way that would convince them to

2914
01:53:04,229 --> 01:53:02,320
start acting for the public good

2915
01:53:05,910 --> 01:53:04,239
it ain't gonna happen that takes away

2916
01:53:07,750 --> 01:53:05,920
the power of the people who would

2917
01:53:09,510 --> 01:53:07,760
be enacting the rules in in the first

2918
01:53:10,470 --> 01:53:09,520
place you have to have a nanny rule

2919
01:53:13,990 --> 01:53:10,480
against themselves

2920
01:53:17,030 --> 01:53:14,000
right right right and what uh

2921
01:53:20,070 --> 01:53:17,040
going back to the censorship issue

2922
01:53:23,669 --> 01:53:20,080
um we have uh

2923
01:53:26,790 --> 01:53:23,679
uh different segments of of

2924
01:53:27,350 --> 01:53:26,800
society that are trying to speak up that

2925
01:53:29,990 --> 01:53:27,360
have been

2926
01:53:31,430 --> 01:53:30,000
removed i'm talking specifically about

2927
01:53:33,669 --> 01:53:31,440
you know dell big tree

2928
01:53:35,430 --> 01:53:33,679
and the anti-vaxxers that are out there

2929
01:53:38,629 --> 01:53:35,440
that are trying to get data out

2930
01:53:40,950 --> 01:53:38,639
if you don't go with the narrative then

2931
01:53:43,430 --> 01:53:40,960
you are spreading disinformation we are

2932
01:53:45,750 --> 01:53:43,440
going to remove your ability

2933
01:53:48,070 --> 01:53:45,760
to communicate they did that with dell

2934
01:53:49,510 --> 01:53:48,080
big tree they did it with david ike

2935
01:53:51,270 --> 01:53:49,520
um whether you're talking about

2936
01:53:51,669 --> 01:53:51,280
spreading things that people die from

2937
01:53:54,709 --> 01:53:51,679
then

2938
01:53:57,430 --> 01:53:54,719
you should be stopped polio would be

2939
01:53:58,950 --> 01:53:57,440
gone 100 on this planet if they allowed

2940
01:54:00,709 --> 01:53:58,960
us to actually vaccinate

2941
01:54:02,629 --> 01:54:00,719
in certain areas polio is one of the

2942
01:54:05,030 --> 01:54:02,639
ones that we got to 99

2943
01:54:06,830 --> 01:54:05,040
eradicated and then conspiracy theories

2944
01:54:09,189 --> 01:54:06,840
convinced people in some countries like

2945
01:54:10,790 --> 01:54:09,199
pakistan that uh that we were doing

2946
01:54:12,229 --> 01:54:10,800
horrible things with these vaccines

2947
01:54:13,910 --> 01:54:12,239
and they stopped allowing the vaccines

2948
01:54:14,470 --> 01:54:13,920
to come and polio is starting to spread

2949
01:54:16,390 --> 01:54:14,480
again

2950
01:54:18,070 --> 01:54:16,400
there are multiple diseases that are

2951
01:54:19,510 --> 01:54:18,080
deadly and painful and horrible for

2952
01:54:21,830 --> 01:54:19,520
children to go through

2953
01:54:24,070 --> 01:54:21,840
that could be gone if these anti-vaxxers

2954
01:54:25,830 --> 01:54:24,080
hadn't started being

2955
01:54:28,310 --> 01:54:25,840
i won't i won't swear up and down on

2956
01:54:30,470 --> 01:54:28,320
your show but who they are in the 90s

2957
01:54:31,750 --> 01:54:30,480
when a grifter started the whole damn

2958
01:54:34,870 --> 01:54:31,760
movement and got

2959
01:54:36,470 --> 01:54:34,880
found out and got fined and was charged

2960
01:54:40,550 --> 01:54:36,480
with fraud

2961
01:54:43,910 --> 01:54:40,560
yes but um is is silencing

2962
01:54:46,950 --> 01:54:43,920
any voice that that is out there

2963
01:54:47,270 --> 01:54:46,960
including your own is is that the way to

2964
01:54:49,589 --> 01:54:47,280
go

2965
01:54:50,390 --> 01:54:49,599
what i was saying was killing children

2966
01:54:54,390 --> 01:54:50,400
then i would hope

2967
01:54:57,510 --> 01:54:54,400
people would silence me right

2968
01:54:59,189 --> 01:54:57,520
yes yes yes yes but

2969
01:55:01,030 --> 01:54:59,199
and i'm trying to play devil's advocate

2970
01:55:04,310 --> 01:55:01,040
here if you

2971
01:55:06,629 --> 01:55:04,320
remove all of this then you're not

2972
01:55:08,790 --> 01:55:06,639
uh able to follow the information that

2973
01:55:11,910 --> 01:55:08,800
is that is incorrect

2974
01:55:13,910 --> 01:55:11,920
yes yeah yeah yeah so you

2975
01:55:17,669 --> 01:55:13,920
as a human being all the studies the

2976
01:55:20,229 --> 01:55:17,679
psychology is very well understood uh

2977
01:55:21,910 --> 01:55:20,239
the more lies and misinformation and

2978
01:55:22,709 --> 01:55:21,920
disinformation you feed into your brain

2979
01:55:25,430 --> 01:55:22,719
the less

2980
01:55:26,229 --> 01:55:25,440
critical thinking capability you have um

2981
01:55:28,790 --> 01:55:26,239
it actually

2982
01:55:30,790 --> 01:55:28,800
does does real physical changes and

2983
01:55:34,149 --> 01:55:30,800
damage to your brain over the years

2984
01:55:34,790 --> 01:55:34,159
um so as a society i mean it is actually

2985
01:55:36,550 --> 01:55:34,800
better

2986
01:55:37,990 --> 01:55:36,560
for the entire society to remove that

2987
01:55:39,830 --> 01:55:38,000
stuff not only for

2988
01:55:41,350 --> 01:55:39,840
like the anti-vaxxers who are literally

2989
01:55:44,229 --> 01:55:41,360
causing people to die

2990
01:55:45,990 --> 01:55:44,239
um but um you know for just

2991
01:55:48,149 --> 01:55:46,000
disinformation in general as it

2992
01:55:49,589 --> 01:55:48,159
is built uh for propaganda there there

2993
01:55:51,189 --> 01:55:49,599
are very few people pushing

2994
01:55:53,910 --> 01:55:51,199
disinformation that aren't profiting off

2995
01:55:55,109 --> 01:55:53,920
of it um and and it is for profit that

2996
01:55:56,550 --> 01:55:55,119
they are doing it um

2997
01:55:58,870 --> 01:55:56,560
again like the guy who started the

2998
01:56:03,430 --> 01:55:58,880
anti-vaxx movement he did it for profit

2999
01:56:05,750 --> 01:56:03,440
uh it's it's

3000
01:56:06,550 --> 01:56:05,760
it's sad and the human brain can't

3001
01:56:09,830 --> 01:56:06,560
withstand

3002
01:56:11,910 --> 01:56:09,840
that amount of cognitive dissonance

3003
01:56:13,109 --> 01:56:11,920
dissonance that happens when it's fed

3004
01:56:14,310 --> 01:56:13,119
that many lies and that much

3005
01:56:15,990 --> 01:56:14,320
disinformation

3006
01:56:18,790 --> 01:56:16,000
it's bad for society you know what you

3007
01:56:21,750 --> 01:56:18,800
end up with 74 million people

3008
01:56:22,310 --> 01:56:21,760
voting for trump again and people riding

3009
01:56:25,750 --> 01:56:22,320
and

3010
01:56:27,430 --> 01:56:25,760
killing cops

3011
01:56:29,510 --> 01:56:27,440
um that's what you end up with when you

3012
01:56:31,910 --> 01:56:29,520
allow disinformation for

3013
01:56:33,830 --> 01:56:31,920
uh to just work as hard as it was not

3014
01:56:35,030 --> 01:56:33,840
only for the last 30 years but for the

3015
01:56:37,750 --> 01:56:35,040
last

3016
01:56:39,030 --> 01:56:37,760
like four years especially before we

3017
01:56:42,470 --> 01:56:39,040
head to the break

3018
01:56:45,589 --> 01:56:42,480
um uh 2020 allowed

3019
01:56:47,510 --> 01:56:45,599
everybody to be locked down uh

3020
01:56:49,109 --> 01:56:47,520
not leaving their houses and spending

3021
01:56:52,629 --> 01:56:49,119
time on the internet

3022
01:56:54,709 --> 01:56:52,639
where where these conspiracy theories

3023
01:56:56,390 --> 01:56:54,719
were allowed to propagate some of them

3024
01:56:59,589 --> 01:56:56,400
had foundation to it

3025
01:57:02,950 --> 01:56:59,599
okay it helped quinon grow a lot

3026
01:57:06,550 --> 01:57:02,960
well and and and the

3027
01:57:10,149 --> 01:57:06,560
the uh well okay

3028
01:57:13,430 --> 01:57:10,159
it it the lockdown nearly changed

3029
01:57:14,310 --> 01:57:13,440
dna and i'm being serious about this

3030
01:57:16,550 --> 01:57:14,320
we're talking about

3031
01:57:17,589 --> 01:57:16,560
covering of faces being locked down in

3032
01:57:20,870 --> 01:57:17,599
your house

3033
01:57:24,310 --> 01:57:20,880
uh being fed information all day long

3034
01:57:28,870 --> 01:57:24,320
um you're not out there right right

3035
01:57:32,310 --> 01:57:28,880
and and that we are today where we are

3036
01:57:34,950 --> 01:57:32,320
where you can't get people to back up on

3037
01:57:37,109 --> 01:57:34,960
on the ideas that they have built up on

3038
01:57:39,270 --> 01:57:37,119
for 12 months

3039
01:57:41,189 --> 01:57:39,280
it's it's hard i mean you find ways to

3040
01:57:44,310 --> 01:57:41,199
cope in tough situations and

3041
01:57:47,750 --> 01:57:44,320
uh a lot of people's coping mechanism

3042
01:57:49,109 --> 01:57:47,760
was going down these rabbit holes and uh

3043
01:57:50,310 --> 01:57:49,119
they'd end up with whatever they

3044
01:57:52,149 --> 01:57:50,320
believed they believed and hey

3045
01:57:53,510 --> 01:57:52,159
you know that that that is how the human

3046
01:57:54,629 --> 01:57:53,520
brain works i have found myself on

3047
01:57:55,350 --> 01:57:54,639
youtube at three in the morning

3048
01:57:56,950 --> 01:57:55,360
wondering

3049
01:57:59,030 --> 01:57:56,960
how this happened because you know it

3050
01:58:00,709 --> 01:57:59,040
was 10 p.m a few minutes ago

3051
01:58:02,310 --> 01:58:00,719
and i just kept clicking on the next

3052
01:58:03,589 --> 01:58:02,320
video i was recommending and i ended up

3053
01:58:05,189 --> 01:58:03,599
somehow watching something

3054
01:58:07,350 --> 01:58:05,199
that i never would have chosen to watch

3055
01:58:09,750 --> 01:58:07,360
myself uh you know and

3056
01:58:11,510 --> 01:58:09,760
uh a lot of us went through that over

3057
01:58:13,109 --> 01:58:11,520
this time period so

3058
01:58:15,030 --> 01:58:13,119
yeah it helped a lot of conspiracy

3059
01:58:15,430 --> 01:58:15,040
theory and a lot of uh other things you

3060
01:58:17,030 --> 01:58:15,440
know

3061
01:58:18,709 --> 01:58:17,040
especially misinformation happen and

3062
01:58:19,750 --> 01:58:18,719
that's not to say that all conspiracy

3063
01:58:21,189 --> 01:58:19,760
theories false we

3064
01:58:23,510 --> 01:58:21,199
we have proven time and time again that

3065
01:58:25,189 --> 01:58:23,520
conspiracy theories can become true

3066
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people were talking about mk ultra

3067
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before we had the proof that it happened

3068
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so i'm not gonna sit here and say

3069
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all conspiracy theory is wrong i'm just

3070
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gonna say that you know

3071
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the majority has been proven false time

3072
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and time again

3073
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3074
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3075
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3123
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3141
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3144
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3145
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3146
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3147
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3148
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3149
02:02:19,030 --> 02:02:16,709
this is fade to black with jimmy church

3150
02:02:36,870 --> 02:02:19,040
on the game changer radio network

3151
02:02:39,430 --> 02:02:38,229
welcome back fade to black i'm rarely

3152
02:02:41,030 --> 02:02:39,440
jimmy church our guest tonight greg

3153
02:02:45,430 --> 02:02:41,040
house

3154
02:02:49,270 --> 02:02:45,440
of all of this

3155
02:02:51,109 --> 02:02:49,280
uh for so long and uh we we've toned it

3156
02:02:52,709 --> 02:02:51,119
down somewhat tonight but

3157
02:02:54,310 --> 02:02:52,719
i can tell you this anytime that i i

3158
02:02:55,189 --> 02:02:54,320
contact greg he is somewhere in the

3159
02:02:57,990 --> 02:02:55,199
country

3160
02:02:59,430 --> 02:02:58,000
uh uh in in the middle of it and in the

3161
02:03:00,229 --> 02:02:59,440
thick of things and when you hear greg

3162
02:03:02,310 --> 02:03:00,239
speak

3163
02:03:03,750 --> 02:03:02,320
he's not doing this uh you know from the

3164
02:03:05,750 --> 02:03:03,760
comfort of his living room he's out

3165
02:03:07,990 --> 02:03:05,760
there doing this around the country

3166
02:03:09,189 --> 02:03:08,000
and and speaking out loudly about all of

3167
02:03:11,030 --> 02:03:09,199
these issues

3168
02:03:12,950 --> 02:03:11,040
and certainly the internet is a part of

3169
02:03:16,070 --> 02:03:12,960
your life greg and

3170
02:03:18,229 --> 02:03:16,080
um when the movie social dilemma the

3171
02:03:20,950 --> 02:03:18,239
social dilemma came out

3172
02:03:21,830 --> 02:03:20,960
and i watched it and then i re-watched

3173
02:03:23,750 --> 02:03:21,840
it

3174
02:03:25,589 --> 02:03:23,760
there was a certain part of me that was

3175
02:03:27,589 --> 02:03:25,599
angry and then there was a certain

3176
02:03:28,790 --> 02:03:27,599
part of me that i had to look back at

3177
02:03:31,350 --> 02:03:28,800
myself

3178
02:03:32,070 --> 02:03:31,360
and then look at my internet world and

3179
02:03:35,430 --> 02:03:32,080
consider

3180
02:03:37,030 --> 02:03:35,440
what my news feed was and one of the

3181
02:03:38,709 --> 02:03:37,040
things that is important

3182
02:03:41,270 --> 02:03:38,719
probably the most important thing and

3183
02:03:42,070 --> 02:03:41,280
there's two with a social dilemma is

3184
02:03:45,189 --> 02:03:42,080
that

3185
02:03:48,550 --> 02:03:45,199
everybody's news feed

3186
02:03:52,629 --> 02:03:48,560
is tailor made for them they

3187
02:03:54,870 --> 02:03:52,639
think the world is their news feed

3188
02:03:56,310 --> 02:03:54,880
and they think that everybody else

3189
02:03:59,510 --> 02:03:56,320
around them

3190
02:04:03,430 --> 02:03:59,520
has the same feed and they

3191
02:04:04,149 --> 02:04:03,440
do not down to the most individual

3192
02:04:07,270 --> 02:04:04,159
person

3193
02:04:08,149 --> 02:04:07,280
on the planet and that is a pretty crazy

3194
02:04:10,870 --> 02:04:08,159
algorithm

3195
02:04:11,510 --> 02:04:10,880
and and to think about isn't it it

3196
02:04:13,589 --> 02:04:11,520
really is

3197
02:04:15,510 --> 02:04:13,599
um you know for people who haven't uh

3198
02:04:18,550 --> 02:04:15,520
watched the social dilemma

3199
02:04:21,750 --> 02:04:18,560
you know you should uh it is amazing

3200
02:04:24,470 --> 02:04:21,760
um jeff orlowski does just the best

3201
02:04:25,350 --> 02:04:24,480
freaking work i i i it's it's a

3202
02:04:28,470 --> 02:04:25,360
docudrama

3203
02:04:30,069 --> 02:04:28,480
so it's you know kind of traumatized

3204
02:04:31,669 --> 02:04:30,079
version of a documentary

3205
02:04:33,350 --> 02:04:31,679
but it's a lot of real interviews with

3206
02:04:34,470 --> 02:04:33,360
real people who you know worked at

3207
02:04:37,270 --> 02:04:34,480
places like facebook

3208
02:04:39,109 --> 02:04:37,280
google apple all those uh and they go

3209
02:04:41,430 --> 02:04:39,119
into great detail about the

3210
02:04:42,790 --> 02:04:41,440
uh level of manipulation that's possible

3211
02:04:46,629 --> 02:04:42,800
on platforms like this

3212
02:04:49,910 --> 02:04:46,639
um and how they use it to extract the

3213
02:04:51,990 --> 02:04:49,920
most possible money out of you like um

3214
02:04:54,470 --> 02:04:52,000
there have been experiments where

3215
02:04:57,430 --> 02:04:54,480
facebook thinks it's okay to test

3216
02:04:59,350 --> 02:04:57,440
if uh if we show you ads that are sent

3217
02:05:02,470 --> 02:04:59,360
or if we show you posts

3218
02:05:05,510 --> 02:05:02,480
that our sentiment analysis software

3219
02:05:08,709 --> 02:05:05,520
says we'll put you in x mood

3220
02:05:11,350 --> 02:05:08,719
and then we show you why add

3221
02:05:13,510 --> 02:05:11,360
will you buy it more often and so like

3222
02:05:16,629 --> 02:05:13,520
that level of user manipulation

3223
02:05:17,990 --> 02:05:16,639
uh as at the core of why these

3224
02:05:21,189 --> 02:05:18,000
algorithmic

3225
02:05:22,790 --> 02:05:21,199
news feeds are problematic in the wrong

3226
02:05:25,990 --> 02:05:22,800
hands and will almost

3227
02:05:29,350 --> 02:05:26,000
never end up in the right hands the

3228
02:05:32,470 --> 02:05:29,360
uh the individual user

3229
02:05:35,270 --> 02:05:32,480
is effectively put in a bubble it is

3230
02:05:37,350 --> 02:05:35,280
their world and it's their world that is

3231
02:05:41,350 --> 02:05:37,360
individual that isn't shared with

3232
02:05:43,189 --> 02:05:41,360
anybody else and it's uh we like to joke

3233
02:05:45,430 --> 02:05:43,199
about it being called uh you know the

3234
02:05:47,189 --> 02:05:45,440
skinner box it's the same thing used for

3235
02:05:48,870 --> 02:05:47,199
micro transactions on games when when

3236
02:05:50,550 --> 02:05:48,880
they take over the full screen and they

3237
02:05:52,470 --> 02:05:50,560
they trick you into just one more penny

3238
02:05:54,709 --> 02:05:52,480
just one more penny and you realize

3239
02:05:56,470 --> 02:05:54,719
you know an hour in you've spent fifty

3240
02:05:58,550 --> 02:05:56,480
dollars somehow

3241
02:06:01,430 --> 02:05:58,560
yeah you know the skinner box uh is is

3242
02:06:03,669 --> 02:06:01,440
uh is is the metric for it that's a uh

3243
02:06:05,030 --> 02:06:03,679
it's a the real name for the skinner box

3244
02:06:07,030 --> 02:06:05,040
skinner's just the name of the person

3245
02:06:09,589 --> 02:06:07,040
behind the the psychological uh

3246
02:06:11,589 --> 02:06:09,599
you know method here is an operant

3247
02:06:16,229 --> 02:06:11,599
conditioning chamber

3248
02:06:18,950 --> 02:06:16,239
uh something used in laboratory testing

3249
02:06:20,950 --> 02:06:18,960
where a rat a pigeon any kind of animal

3250
02:06:22,390 --> 02:06:20,960
will be put in a box with almost no

3251
02:06:24,629 --> 02:06:22,400
outside stimulus

3252
02:06:25,990 --> 02:06:24,639
and then be given a trigger that will

3253
02:06:27,589 --> 02:06:26,000
give them something they want

3254
02:06:29,430 --> 02:06:27,599
even if there's multiple and only one

3255
02:06:31,510 --> 02:06:29,440
works uh you know

3256
02:06:33,030 --> 02:06:31,520
they'll use uh little levers that you

3257
02:06:35,750 --> 02:06:33,040
know mice or rats have to hit

3258
02:06:36,950 --> 02:06:35,760
and it gives them food um you know that

3259
02:06:39,189 --> 02:06:36,960
the same

3260
02:06:39,990 --> 02:06:39,199
methodology used to build these skinner

3261
02:06:42,229 --> 02:06:40,000
boxes these

3262
02:06:44,790 --> 02:06:42,239
operant conditioning chambers is the

3263
02:06:46,470 --> 02:06:44,800
same idea behind your news feed

3264
02:06:48,390 --> 02:06:46,480
you are you are stuck looking at this

3265
02:06:50,149 --> 02:06:48,400
screen as if you were in a box you

3266
02:06:50,470 --> 02:06:50,159
aren't averting your eyes from it you

3267
02:06:53,910 --> 02:06:50,480
are

3268
02:06:55,830 --> 02:06:53,920
news feed

3269
02:06:57,350 --> 02:06:55,840
and they are feeding you what it takes

3270
02:06:59,430 --> 02:06:57,360
to get you to give them

3271
02:07:02,550 --> 02:06:59,440
more money and if it's not more money

3272
02:07:05,990 --> 02:07:02,560
it's just as valuable it's more data

3273
02:07:07,270 --> 02:07:06,000
the uh the interviews in the social

3274
02:07:10,629 --> 02:07:07,280
dilemma

3275
02:07:11,990 --> 02:07:10,639
which i think across the board say the

3276
02:07:15,589 --> 02:07:12,000
same thing the same

3277
02:07:18,470 --> 02:07:15,599
message in that they didn't realize

3278
02:07:19,990 --> 02:07:18,480
when they were trying to monetize things

3279
02:07:23,430 --> 02:07:20,000
back in 1995

3280
02:07:24,790 --> 02:07:23,440
96 97 98 that these very simple

3281
02:07:26,709 --> 02:07:24,800
algorithms

3282
02:07:27,830 --> 02:07:26,719
would turn into what they turned in

3283
02:07:30,629 --> 02:07:27,840
today

3284
02:07:32,069 --> 02:07:30,639
and they are out of control and there is

3285
02:07:35,830 --> 02:07:32,079
no way to

3286
02:07:38,390 --> 02:07:35,840
reel them back in and the end result

3287
02:07:40,629 --> 02:07:38,400
is going to be entropy at its finest

3288
02:07:42,629 --> 02:07:40,639
right it is just going to

3289
02:07:44,229 --> 02:07:42,639
come completely unglued and there's

3290
02:07:45,830 --> 02:07:44,239
nothing that they can do about it at

3291
02:07:47,270 --> 02:07:45,840
this point

3292
02:07:49,270 --> 02:07:47,280
no uh you know building up these

3293
02:07:52,069 --> 02:07:49,280
algorithms is interesting when you look

3294
02:07:53,990 --> 02:07:52,079
back at the history of them even down to

3295
02:07:55,189 --> 02:07:54,000
who would see what data like the very

3296
02:07:57,830 --> 02:07:55,199
first time

3297
02:07:59,669 --> 02:07:57,840
that facebook's algorithm really started

3298
02:08:00,790 --> 02:07:59,679
to show users slightly different

3299
02:08:02,229 --> 02:08:00,800
information

3300
02:08:04,149 --> 02:08:02,239
wasn't because they were testing

3301
02:08:04,790 --> 02:08:04,159
anything it was because for scale

3302
02:08:07,030 --> 02:08:04,800
reasons

3303
02:08:07,990 --> 02:08:07,040
they were getting so large that they

3304
02:08:09,910 --> 02:08:08,000
literally couldn't get

3305
02:08:11,030 --> 02:08:09,920
the data around their network fast

3306
02:08:13,430 --> 02:08:11,040
enough that if

3307
02:08:14,629 --> 02:08:13,440
you posted something and me and one

3308
02:08:15,270 --> 02:08:14,639
other of your friends pulled up your

3309
02:08:16,870 --> 02:08:15,280
feed

3310
02:08:19,109 --> 02:08:16,880
that we would both see it at the same

3311
02:08:21,910 --> 02:08:19,119
time so they gave up on

3312
02:08:23,430 --> 02:08:21,920
consistency and they rewrote their data

3313
02:08:26,310 --> 02:08:23,440
back end to something called

3314
02:08:27,109 --> 02:08:26,320
eventually consistent and that was the

3315
02:08:30,310 --> 02:08:27,119
first time

3316
02:08:32,069 --> 02:08:30,320
they touched on the data that users see

3317
02:08:33,669 --> 02:08:32,079
doesn't have to be the exact same data

3318
02:08:36,069 --> 02:08:33,679
at the exact same time

3319
02:08:37,350 --> 02:08:36,079
and from there it gets well wait then

3320
02:08:39,510 --> 02:08:37,360
maybe we could

3321
02:08:41,270 --> 02:08:39,520
and you slowly start building on top of

3322
02:08:42,229 --> 02:08:41,280
that what if we really showed them

3323
02:08:43,750 --> 02:08:42,239
different data

3324
02:08:45,669 --> 02:08:43,760
and what if you know but it's just the

3325
02:08:47,030 --> 02:08:45,679
initial idea was literally

3326
02:08:49,270 --> 02:08:47,040
we're going to show you different data

3327
02:08:50,709 --> 02:08:49,280
because it means we can scale better

3328
02:08:53,030 --> 02:08:50,719
not because we're going to manipulate

3329
02:08:55,189 --> 02:08:53,040
you but like so you can see the

3330
02:08:57,430 --> 02:08:55,199
good intentions behind the very initial

3331
02:08:58,470 --> 02:08:57,440
move and you can see the next initial

3332
02:09:00,550 --> 02:08:58,480
move was well

3333
02:09:01,750 --> 02:09:00,560
but man if we didn't show him this

3334
02:09:03,270 --> 02:09:01,760
user's post

3335
02:09:05,270 --> 02:09:03,280
and we showed him an ad there instead

3336
02:09:06,950 --> 02:09:05,280
and it just it well

3337
02:09:08,550 --> 02:09:06,960
we get to hire two more people to do

3338
02:09:10,069 --> 02:09:08,560
this extra job that we need

3339
02:09:12,229 --> 02:09:10,079
and you can kind of see that's not that

3340
02:09:15,109 --> 02:09:12,239
evil right and it just

3341
02:09:15,750 --> 02:09:15,119
it keeps building until suddenly it's

3342
02:09:18,470 --> 02:09:15,760
all evil

3343
02:09:20,229 --> 02:09:18,480
it's gigantic and it's a monster and if

3344
02:09:23,270 --> 02:09:20,239
you touch the monster

3345
02:09:24,790 --> 02:09:23,280
many people might lose their jobs and

3346
02:09:26,870 --> 02:09:24,800
that's where their mind is right like

3347
02:09:28,310 --> 02:09:26,880
the size of their company the volume of

3348
02:09:30,709 --> 02:09:28,320
money being made

3349
02:09:31,589 --> 02:09:30,719
uh you know mark zuckerberg isn't taking

3350
02:09:34,069 --> 02:09:31,599
a pay cut

3351
02:09:35,510 --> 02:09:34,079
you know there might be less moderators

3352
02:09:36,390 --> 02:09:35,520
next year if that place starts losing

3353
02:09:39,510 --> 02:09:36,400
money

3354
02:09:42,709 --> 02:09:39,520
and there was um another

3355
02:09:43,910 --> 02:09:42,719
nugget in the social dilemma that blew

3356
02:09:47,430 --> 02:09:43,920
my mind

3357
02:09:50,470 --> 02:09:47,440
where they were trying to do good

3358
02:09:53,510 --> 02:09:50,480
for the end user by giving

3359
02:09:54,470 --> 02:09:53,520
them ads that would make sense to them

3360
02:09:56,629 --> 02:09:54,480
you don't want to waste

3361
02:09:58,310 --> 02:09:56,639
ad space on somebody that's it's they're

3362
02:10:00,870 --> 02:09:58,320
just not interested

3363
02:10:02,950 --> 02:10:00,880
in the ad so they they tried to write

3364
02:10:04,629 --> 02:10:02,960
these algorithms so that they could take

3365
02:10:05,669 --> 02:10:04,639
care of the end users where they would

3366
02:10:08,229 --> 02:10:05,679
see

3367
02:10:09,030 --> 02:10:08,239
you know ads that that would interest

3368
02:10:12,149 --> 02:10:09,040
them

3369
02:10:15,990 --> 02:10:12,159
that same algorithm was then used

3370
02:10:18,149 --> 02:10:16,000
for news items right that could come in

3371
02:10:19,350 --> 02:10:18,159
and and be in somebody's news feed

3372
02:10:21,270 --> 02:10:19,360
because

3373
02:10:22,550 --> 02:10:21,280
possibly it would be interesting to them

3374
02:10:26,069 --> 02:10:22,560
and maybe this other news

3375
02:10:29,109 --> 02:10:26,079
isn't and that's what got out of control

3376
02:10:31,510 --> 02:10:29,119
right really yeah i mean you know the

3377
02:10:33,270 --> 02:10:31,520
the first ideas that that especially on

3378
02:10:33,910 --> 02:10:33,280
facebook on their platform that they had

3379
02:10:36,870 --> 02:10:33,920
around

3380
02:10:38,709 --> 02:10:36,880
the ads were people kept reporting and

3381
02:10:42,229 --> 02:10:38,719
complaining about ads that were so

3382
02:10:45,350 --> 02:10:42,239
irrelevant to them uh you know like a

3383
02:10:48,470 --> 02:10:45,360
a 15 year old getting an ad for

3384
02:10:50,950 --> 02:10:48,480
uh you know a new house or uh

3385
02:10:52,870 --> 02:10:50,960
you know a 90 year old getting an ad for

3386
02:10:54,229 --> 02:10:52,880
a brand new motorcycle like these

3387
02:10:57,030 --> 02:10:54,239
weren't things that you know

3388
02:10:58,790 --> 02:10:57,040
right they were ever going to buy so the

3389
02:11:00,390 --> 02:10:58,800
team started figuring out how do we show

3390
02:11:01,189 --> 02:11:00,400
them ads that are going to lead to less

3391
02:11:03,350 --> 02:11:01,199
work for us

3392
02:11:05,990 --> 02:11:03,360
on the reporting and a better experience

3393
02:11:07,910 --> 02:11:06,000
for them i'm sure there were the few

3394
02:11:09,830 --> 02:11:07,920
marketing savvy people there who were

3395
02:11:10,550 --> 02:11:09,840
like and maybe since the ads will be

3396
02:11:12,950 --> 02:11:10,560
better

3397
02:11:14,950 --> 02:11:12,960
they might click on them more but the

3398
02:11:15,270 --> 02:11:14,960
very initial nugget that the first thing

3399
02:11:17,270 --> 02:11:15,280
in

3400
02:11:18,709 --> 02:11:17,280
the first developer's name and and he's

3401
02:11:20,950 --> 02:11:18,719
uh one of the people who

3402
02:11:22,550 --> 02:11:20,960
talks in the in the uh the social

3403
02:11:24,709 --> 02:11:22,560
dilemma talks about it but

3404
02:11:26,310 --> 02:11:24,719
it's it's like the very first nugget was

3405
02:11:27,830 --> 02:11:26,320
can we make the user experience a little

3406
02:11:28,709 --> 02:11:27,840
better so they stop seeing all these ads

3407
02:11:30,709 --> 02:11:28,719
they hate

3408
02:11:31,750 --> 02:11:30,719
and so like a lot of these algorithms

3409
02:11:33,430 --> 02:11:31,760
didn't like

3410
02:11:36,149 --> 02:11:33,440
zuckerberg didn't sit down one day and

3411
02:11:37,030 --> 02:11:36,159
say ha ha i'm going to build a lair and

3412
02:11:40,470 --> 02:11:37,040
we're going to build this

3413
02:11:42,470 --> 02:11:40,480
evil algorithm no it organically grew on

3414
02:11:44,069 --> 02:11:42,480
top of itself over and over and over

3415
02:11:46,229 --> 02:11:44,079
it's just

3416
02:11:47,750 --> 02:11:46,239
this type of data collection necessary

3417
02:11:49,189 --> 02:11:47,760
to build this algorithm

3418
02:11:51,350 --> 02:11:49,199
and then the amount of money they need

3419
02:11:54,709 --> 02:11:51,360
to make to maintain it is

3420
02:11:57,750 --> 02:11:54,719
unmaintainable unless it goes bad

3421
02:12:01,109 --> 02:11:57,760
and dark and evil i think personally and

3422
02:12:02,870 --> 02:12:01,119
and and these algorithms are actually

3423
02:12:05,589 --> 02:12:02,880
very simple

3424
02:12:07,430 --> 02:12:05,599
there weren't this complex thing it was

3425
02:12:10,390 --> 02:12:07,440
that they were taking the user data

3426
02:12:12,229 --> 02:12:10,400
that is there uh your search history

3427
02:12:15,669 --> 02:12:12,239
what you're clicking on and really

3428
02:12:18,870 --> 02:12:15,679
that was it but today the user data

3429
02:12:22,069 --> 02:12:18,880
on each individual is huge

3430
02:12:22,709 --> 02:12:22,079
it's complete they understand you more

3431
02:12:26,709 --> 02:12:22,719
than your

3432
02:12:29,030 --> 02:12:26,719
children do they really are a step ahead

3433
02:12:29,990 --> 02:12:29,040
of of what is going on the data

3434
02:12:33,510 --> 02:12:30,000
collection on

3435
02:12:36,550 --> 02:12:33,520
on the end users is so complete

3436
02:12:38,390 --> 02:12:36,560
that now when when we're talking about a

3437
02:12:41,430 --> 02:12:38,400
tailored news feed

3438
02:12:43,510 --> 02:12:41,440
it isn't it is based on a metric

3439
02:12:45,910 --> 02:12:43,520
that that you would be blown away if you

3440
02:12:49,430 --> 02:12:45,920
knew how much data was there

3441
02:12:50,950 --> 02:12:49,440
so uh you know apple has introduced in

3442
02:12:52,950 --> 02:12:50,960
their new ios the newest

3443
02:12:55,990 --> 02:12:52,960
one anyways not like new now but the

3444
02:13:00,390 --> 02:12:56,000
newest one a lot more privacy features

3445
02:13:03,270 --> 02:13:00,400
and one of them is any app that includes

3446
02:13:04,310 --> 02:13:03,280
another company's code to accomplish

3447
02:13:06,950 --> 02:13:04,320
something

3448
02:13:08,629 --> 02:13:06,960
um if that company's code is going to

3449
02:13:12,709 --> 02:13:08,639
track the user

3450
02:13:15,990 --> 02:13:12,719
and tell such as you're running a game

3451
02:13:17,990 --> 02:13:16,000
and you load up this game and it allows

3452
02:13:19,430 --> 02:13:18,000
you to log into the game to remember

3453
02:13:20,950 --> 02:13:19,440
your high scores

3454
02:13:22,870 --> 02:13:20,960
and go against everyone else in the

3455
02:13:23,830 --> 02:13:22,880
world or log in and play words with

3456
02:13:26,550 --> 02:13:23,840
friends or something

3457
02:13:28,149 --> 02:13:26,560
but allows you to do it with facebook

3458
02:13:31,109 --> 02:13:28,159
now facebook knows

3459
02:13:31,990 --> 02:13:31,119
that you just played words with friends

3460
02:13:35,109 --> 02:13:32,000
on your phone

3461
02:13:36,790 --> 02:13:35,119
in this location at this time and then

3462
02:13:38,709 --> 02:13:36,800
you did it five more times

3463
02:13:39,990 --> 02:13:38,719
at that around that same time they know

3464
02:13:41,589 --> 02:13:40,000
now that that's a little free time

3465
02:13:43,669 --> 02:13:41,599
you've got at that time

3466
02:13:45,030 --> 02:13:43,679
maybe we need to start focusing our ads

3467
02:13:47,990 --> 02:13:45,040
near that right

3468
02:13:49,109 --> 02:13:48,000
so apple released a uh an update that

3469
02:13:51,430 --> 02:13:49,119
any app

3470
02:13:54,229 --> 02:13:51,440
that used tools like facebook's or

3471
02:13:57,189 --> 02:13:54,239
twitters or anyone else's login features

3472
02:13:58,790 --> 02:13:57,199
for their app had to warn the user that

3473
02:14:00,950 --> 02:13:58,800
they were getting tracked by facebook

3474
02:14:03,510 --> 02:14:00,960
and give them the option to turn it off

3475
02:14:05,109 --> 02:14:03,520
this led to an understanding of how

3476
02:14:07,669 --> 02:14:05,119
important that data was

3477
02:14:10,470 --> 02:14:07,679
because facebook took out full page full

3478
02:14:13,830 --> 02:14:10,480
color ads in multiple newspapers

3479
02:14:16,870 --> 02:14:13,840
complaining about this update

3480
02:14:20,149 --> 02:14:16,880
that's incredible to me and

3481
02:14:23,990 --> 02:14:20,159
this data is shared between

3482
02:14:26,550 --> 02:14:24,000
att apple facebook google this is a

3483
02:14:28,390 --> 02:14:26,560
commodity aggregators there's middlemen

3484
02:14:29,189 --> 02:14:28,400
who collect all of this and build giant

3485
02:14:31,510 --> 02:14:29,199
data sets

3486
02:14:32,229 --> 02:14:31,520
so like if you've seen some of the big

3487
02:14:34,629 --> 02:14:32,239
you know where

3488
02:14:35,430 --> 02:14:34,639
300 million people's data was like

3489
02:14:36,790 --> 02:14:35,440
hacked like

3490
02:14:38,790 --> 02:14:36,800
in the last you know decade you know

3491
02:14:40,870 --> 02:14:38,800
when those types of leaks happen

3492
02:14:42,950 --> 02:14:40,880
um and you hear it's from some random

3493
02:14:44,629 --> 02:14:42,960
company innovox data and you've never

3494
02:14:47,510 --> 02:14:44,639
heard of these freaking people

3495
02:14:48,390 --> 02:14:47,520
they're one of those data warehousing

3496
02:14:50,069 --> 02:14:48,400
places

3497
02:14:51,910 --> 02:14:50,079
that take all this data from all these

3498
02:14:54,310 --> 02:14:51,920
companies collate it together

3499
02:14:55,589 --> 02:14:54,320
figure out that this data is one human

3500
02:14:57,430 --> 02:14:55,599
being's data

3501
02:14:59,750 --> 02:14:57,440
and then can feed that back out to

3502
02:15:02,390 --> 02:14:59,760
everyone like facebook and everyone else

3503
02:15:04,069 --> 02:15:02,400
and these data warehouses are just they

3504
02:15:04,550 --> 02:15:04,079
have more data on you than you could

3505
02:15:08,550 --> 02:15:04,560
ever

3506
02:15:11,990 --> 02:15:08,560
imagine now and the data starts from

3507
02:15:12,709 --> 02:15:12,000
especially today uh newborn right baby's

3508
02:15:15,830 --> 02:15:12,719
born

3509
02:15:20,629 --> 02:15:15,840
the file is now start is established

3510
02:15:26,550 --> 02:15:24,149
as crazy as that sounds that's

3511
02:15:28,149 --> 02:15:26,560
like the most valuable data because you

3512
02:15:30,950 --> 02:15:28,159
can start building it

3513
02:15:32,870 --> 02:15:30,960
from the youngest age possible and and

3514
02:15:35,669 --> 02:15:32,880
extend it out

3515
02:15:35,990 --> 02:15:35,679
yeah and uh and you know there's lots of

3516
02:15:37,430 --> 02:15:36,000
legal

3517
02:15:39,109 --> 02:15:37,440
loopholes that you have to go through to

3518
02:15:41,350 --> 02:15:39,119
be able to track any of that so

3519
02:15:43,030 --> 02:15:41,360
a lot of that is tracked through parents

3520
02:15:44,790 --> 02:15:43,040
through guardians things like that

3521
02:15:46,229 --> 02:15:44,800
uh you know kids aren't supposed to have

3522
02:15:47,669 --> 02:15:46,239
a facebook account until they're 13 and

3523
02:15:50,470 --> 02:15:47,679
crap like that right

3524
02:15:51,270 --> 02:15:50,480
um but you can set up you know youtube

3525
02:15:52,870 --> 02:15:51,280
kids accounts

3526
02:15:54,390 --> 02:15:52,880
uh you know and then whenever they're

3527
02:15:56,950 --> 02:15:54,400
watching or or uh

3528
02:15:58,390 --> 02:15:56,960
or netflix kids accounts and so you know

3529
02:16:00,870 --> 02:15:58,400
young children are not watching all this

3530
02:16:03,669 --> 02:16:00,880
that data is being tracked

3531
02:16:05,990 --> 02:16:03,679
now how how important is it for

3532
02:16:07,830 --> 02:16:06,000
everybody that is on social media to

3533
02:16:10,149 --> 02:16:07,840
watch the social dilemma

3534
02:16:11,589 --> 02:16:10,159
should it be you know you sign the tos

3535
02:16:14,229 --> 02:16:11,599
but you have to watch the

3536
02:16:15,510 --> 02:16:14,239
the documentary first yeah i really

3537
02:16:17,109 --> 02:16:15,520
don't care if you read the terms of

3538
02:16:17,510 --> 02:16:17,119
service you kind of know what's in there

3539
02:16:20,390 --> 02:16:17,520
uh

3540
02:16:21,350 --> 02:16:20,400
don't be an ass and we won't ban you as

3541
02:16:23,109 --> 02:16:21,360
kind of the gist

3542
02:16:25,270 --> 02:16:23,119
anything beyond that if you actually

3543
02:16:27,430 --> 02:16:25,280
triggered it you've probably violated

3544
02:16:29,030 --> 02:16:27,440
multiple major other laws so i don't

3545
02:16:30,229 --> 02:16:29,040
think you have to worry about the tos

3546
02:16:32,469 --> 02:16:30,239
but i would say that

3547
02:16:34,549 --> 02:16:32,479
everyone who is skipping past that to us

3548
02:16:37,509 --> 02:16:34,559
should not skip the social dilemma

3549
02:16:39,030 --> 02:16:37,519
it really explains to you just how we've

3550
02:16:40,309 --> 02:16:39,040
gotten to where we are with the amount

3551
02:16:42,950 --> 02:16:40,319
of information that's out there

3552
02:16:45,110 --> 02:16:42,960
but it also explains how the divide has

3553
02:16:46,230 --> 02:16:45,120
gotten so large and how we've been

3554
02:16:48,389 --> 02:16:46,240
divided

3555
02:16:49,429 --> 02:16:48,399
into groups by these large companies and

3556
02:16:52,389 --> 02:16:49,439
these interests

3557
02:16:53,589 --> 02:16:52,399
these rich powerful interests again the

3558
02:16:55,830 --> 02:16:53,599
billionaires have gained

3559
02:16:57,030 --> 02:16:55,840
hundreds of billions of dollars during

3560
02:16:59,190 --> 02:16:57,040
the pandemic

3561
02:17:00,870 --> 02:16:59,200
uh because we've all been at home using

3562
02:17:03,669 --> 02:17:00,880
their tools

3563
02:17:04,629 --> 02:17:03,679
i read the other day uh elon musk

3564
02:17:08,150 --> 02:17:04,639
started out

3565
02:17:09,110 --> 02:17:08,160
2020 worth 29 billion dollars he ended

3566
02:17:13,589 --> 02:17:09,120
2020

3567
02:17:16,549 --> 02:17:13,599
worth 189 billion dollars

3568
02:17:18,389 --> 02:17:16,559
yeah yeah that's uh that's how the

3569
02:17:21,429 --> 02:17:18,399
pandemic went for billionaires

3570
02:17:24,230 --> 02:17:21,439
that's uh crazy to me um and

3571
02:17:25,429 --> 02:17:24,240
the other part uh about the social

3572
02:17:29,669 --> 02:17:25,439
dilemma

3573
02:17:30,950 --> 02:17:29,679
is when you are walking down the hallway

3574
02:17:34,150 --> 02:17:30,960
at work

3575
02:17:36,950 --> 02:17:34,160
and you say good morning to somebody

3576
02:17:37,990 --> 02:17:36,960
and they bite your head off they are

3577
02:17:41,429 --> 02:17:38,000
assuming

3578
02:17:43,669 --> 02:17:41,439
that you read the same stuff in your

3579
02:17:46,870 --> 02:17:43,679
news feed that morning

3580
02:17:50,230 --> 02:17:46,880
that they did and now we have this

3581
02:17:52,629 --> 02:17:50,240
disconnect with everybody because

3582
02:17:54,629 --> 02:17:52,639
nobody is getting the same information

3583
02:17:57,830 --> 02:17:54,639
from the same sources

3584
02:17:59,429 --> 02:17:57,840
and this is now prevalent across not

3585
02:18:00,870 --> 02:17:59,439
only the united states but all around

3586
02:18:02,469 --> 02:18:00,880
the world

3587
02:18:03,990 --> 02:18:02,479
yeah and it's more echo chambers because

3588
02:18:05,509 --> 02:18:04,000
you have the people that only believe

3589
02:18:07,429 --> 02:18:05,519
what fox says the people that only

3590
02:18:09,030 --> 02:18:07,439
believe what msnbc says

3591
02:18:11,030 --> 02:18:09,040
and then the people who think all mass

3592
02:18:11,750 --> 02:18:11,040
media is wrong and they will only listen

3593
02:18:14,950 --> 02:18:11,760
to

3594
02:18:18,230 --> 02:18:14,960
chuck down the streets blog um

3595
02:18:19,429 --> 02:18:18,240
you know and so like it's just ugg

3596
02:18:21,270 --> 02:18:19,439
you know the one thing i have to say

3597
02:18:22,629 --> 02:18:21,280
about chuck down the streets blog though

3598
02:18:24,309 --> 02:18:22,639
is when you look in the footer and you

3599
02:18:25,990 --> 02:18:24,319
go and you find the privacy policy you

3600
02:18:27,190 --> 02:18:26,000
find who's backing it nine times out of

3601
02:18:28,389 --> 02:18:27,200
ten it's a think tank

3602
02:18:30,709 --> 02:18:28,399
yeah trying to spread more

3603
02:18:33,910 --> 02:18:30,719
disinformation now

3604
02:18:37,509 --> 02:18:33,920
if we go back to when uh

3605
02:18:38,549 --> 02:18:37,519
youtube was created and i spent so much

3606
02:18:41,990 --> 02:18:38,559
time on there

3607
02:18:44,150 --> 02:18:42,000
watching and i did this uh watching the

3608
02:18:47,270 --> 02:18:44,160
craziest conspiracy stuff

3609
02:18:49,750 --> 02:18:47,280
and especially you know the 911 videos

3610
02:18:50,790 --> 02:18:49,760
and yeah and everything that that was

3611
02:18:54,389 --> 02:18:50,800
out there

3612
02:18:56,309 --> 02:18:54,399
i viewed it largely as entertainment

3613
02:18:57,509 --> 02:18:56,319
whether it was ufos or ghosts or

3614
02:18:59,669 --> 02:18:57,519
anything just off

3615
02:19:01,349 --> 02:18:59,679
you know and that's what you that's what

3616
02:19:04,309 --> 02:19:01,359
built youtube that's what made

3617
02:19:05,190 --> 02:19:04,319
youtube what it was or or what it is

3618
02:19:08,469 --> 02:19:05,200
today

3619
02:19:11,990 --> 02:19:08,479
but but now we're in a danger zone

3620
02:19:14,150 --> 02:19:12,000
with with censorship that maybe ufos

3621
02:19:15,589 --> 02:19:14,160
uh are something that is against the

3622
02:19:18,870 --> 02:19:15,599
government's

3623
02:19:20,790 --> 02:19:18,880
wishes and and i think on that one we're

3624
02:19:21,110 --> 02:19:20,800
kind of heading in a stranger direction

3625
02:19:23,990 --> 02:19:21,120
where

3626
02:19:25,990 --> 02:19:24,000
like they've released more video that

3627
02:19:27,750 --> 02:19:26,000
they've said we don't know what this is

3628
02:19:29,110 --> 02:19:27,760
in the last year than i've seen them do

3629
02:19:32,629 --> 02:19:29,120
in the last 20 years

3630
02:19:34,950 --> 02:19:32,639
right right right but 911 right or alex

3631
02:19:37,669 --> 02:19:34,960
jones or or any of this other

3632
02:19:41,589 --> 02:19:37,679
alex jones is uh but what i'm saying is

3633
02:19:44,709 --> 02:19:42,950
yeah we're all on the same page with

3634
02:19:45,750 --> 02:19:44,719
alex jones who just came out with a

3635
02:19:48,790 --> 02:19:45,760
video yesterday

3636
02:19:50,469 --> 02:19:48,800
condemning q and on did you see that

3637
02:19:51,830 --> 02:19:50,479
yeah that's only because they were

3638
02:19:53,110 --> 02:19:51,840
eating into his profits he's a

3639
02:19:54,950 --> 02:19:53,120
gryffindor and that's what i said

3640
02:19:58,950 --> 02:19:54,960
yesterday too

3641
02:19:59,670 --> 02:19:58,960
is is um but i don't think that all of

3642
02:20:04,389 --> 02:19:59,680
that

3643
02:20:07,830 --> 02:20:04,399
2008 2009 2010

3644
02:20:10,550 --> 02:20:07,840
uh changed society you know if you

3645
02:20:10,950 --> 02:20:10,560
viewed it as entertainment and and just

3646
02:20:13,670 --> 02:20:10,960
go

3647
02:20:15,190 --> 02:20:13,680
and and watch it that's one thing right

3648
02:20:19,670 --> 02:20:15,200
and i just

3649
02:20:21,190 --> 02:20:19,680
oh look at that only he can see it yeah

3650
02:20:23,349 --> 02:20:21,200
yeah the audience doesn't see me on

3651
02:20:25,110 --> 02:20:23,359
camera they don't they only see no no

3652
02:20:27,270 --> 02:20:25,120
yeah no nobody's oh yeah you can see

3653
02:20:30,469 --> 02:20:27,280
those um

3654
02:20:31,349 --> 02:20:30,479
but is it what what's the difference

3655
02:20:33,910 --> 02:20:31,359
between

3656
02:20:35,429 --> 02:20:33,920
um alex jones being entertainment like

3657
02:20:38,870 --> 02:20:35,439
you had said earlier

3658
02:20:40,150 --> 02:20:38,880
and and and censorship that's that's the

3659
02:20:41,670 --> 02:20:40,160
weird part that

3660
02:20:44,469 --> 02:20:41,680
that i think everybody is concerned

3661
02:20:46,550 --> 02:20:44,479
about not weird for me uh

3662
02:20:47,910 --> 02:20:46,560
he keeps going and doing things like

3663
02:20:51,030 --> 02:20:47,920
working with ali

3664
02:20:53,190 --> 02:20:51,040
alexander who helped organize the coup

3665
02:20:55,670 --> 02:20:53,200
attempt uh the insurrection

3666
02:20:56,710 --> 02:20:55,680
um if you are going to encourage people

3667
02:21:00,550 --> 02:20:56,720
to be violent

3668
02:21:01,270 --> 02:21:00,560
and to uh actually go out and do

3669
02:21:04,710 --> 02:21:01,280
violence

3670
02:21:06,950 --> 02:21:04,720
to other human beings then uh it is not

3671
02:21:07,429 --> 02:21:06,960
censorship hate speech is not protected

3672
02:21:10,950 --> 02:21:07,439
uh

3673
02:21:13,750 --> 02:21:10,960
that's not right he is

3674
02:21:15,670 --> 02:21:13,760
all hate and yelling and anger yeah yeah

3675
02:21:17,670 --> 02:21:15,680
yeah that's another man's face is red

3676
02:21:19,510 --> 02:21:17,680
like all day long from anger

3677
02:21:21,510 --> 02:21:19,520
that's another conversation what i'm

3678
02:21:25,429 --> 02:21:21,520
referring to is

3679
02:21:27,670 --> 02:21:25,439
9 11 conspiracy videos or uh

3680
02:21:28,550 --> 02:21:27,680
any other conspiracy videos out there

3681
02:21:30,230 --> 02:21:28,560
that that are

3682
02:21:32,070 --> 02:21:30,240
somebody's ideas those haven't been

3683
02:21:35,830 --> 02:21:32,080
banned yet

3684
02:21:38,309 --> 02:21:35,840
so what's the difference that's my point

3685
02:21:39,349 --> 02:21:38,319
well the 911 videos aren't currently

3686
02:21:41,670 --> 02:21:39,359
getting people

3687
02:21:42,630 --> 02:21:41,680
killed uh from other storming uh the

3688
02:21:44,790 --> 02:21:42,640
capitol building

3689
02:21:45,910 --> 02:21:44,800
aren't putting us in the streets against

3690
02:21:47,670 --> 02:21:45,920
each other you know when i go out to a

3691
02:21:50,870 --> 02:21:47,680
protest here in boston

3692
02:21:53,429 --> 02:21:50,880
it's it you know i

3693
02:21:54,150 --> 02:21:53,439
i'm chest to chest with people literally

3694
02:21:57,510 --> 02:21:54,160
wearing

3695
02:22:00,469 --> 02:21:57,520
neo-nazi insignias uh you know

3696
02:22:01,349 --> 02:22:00,479
there are people in in this liberal

3697
02:22:03,030 --> 02:22:01,359
state you know

3698
02:22:04,469 --> 02:22:03,040
one of the blue estates in the in the

3699
02:22:07,830 --> 02:22:04,479
union right who

3700
02:22:10,870 --> 02:22:07,840
walk around downtown now carrying rad

3701
02:22:13,550 --> 02:22:10,880
flags which is a nazi symbol and

3702
02:22:15,670 --> 02:22:13,560
wearing their shirts for their group the

3703
02:22:17,830 --> 02:22:15,680
nsc-131 which is the

3704
02:22:19,349 --> 02:22:17,840
uh they're national socialists and they

3705
02:22:21,190 --> 02:22:19,359
admit it it's it's in their name they

3706
02:22:23,830 --> 02:22:21,200
just jokingly call it the national

3707
02:22:24,550 --> 02:22:23,840
social club not the national socialists

3708
02:22:26,870 --> 02:22:24,560
club

3709
02:22:28,469 --> 02:22:26,880
uh but we know who they are and they're

3710
02:22:29,910 --> 02:22:28,479
very clear about it with their 88

3711
02:22:30,950 --> 02:22:29,920
tattoos and their lightning strike

3712
02:22:33,990 --> 02:22:30,960
tattoos

3713
02:22:35,670 --> 02:22:34,000
but um you know so so the 911

3714
02:22:39,270 --> 02:22:35,680
conspiracies aren't fueling

3715
02:22:42,389 --> 02:22:39,280
that whereas the far right

3716
02:22:45,990 --> 02:22:42,399
q anon types are fueling that

3717
02:22:46,790 --> 02:22:46,000
um and so it's it's the difference

3718
02:22:50,230 --> 02:22:46,800
between

3719
02:22:53,030 --> 02:22:50,240
i i've i've never never

3720
02:22:54,630 --> 02:22:53,040
been punched or had a a flagpole swung

3721
02:22:55,110 --> 02:22:54,640
at my head and i'm talking like a big

3722
02:22:58,870 --> 02:22:55,120
like

3723
02:23:01,990 --> 02:22:58,880
swung at my head by someone

3724
02:23:04,469 --> 02:23:02,000
screaming about 911 but i have had

3725
02:23:05,590 --> 02:23:04,479
multiple trump supporters who were q

3726
02:23:07,750 --> 02:23:05,600
anon people

3727
02:23:09,750 --> 02:23:07,760
at protests standing around with people

3728
02:23:11,990 --> 02:23:09,760
literally flying swastikas

3729
02:23:13,510 --> 02:23:12,000
or confederate flags who have swung

3730
02:23:16,710 --> 02:23:13,520
flagpoles at my head

3731
02:23:19,429 --> 02:23:16,720
like one is leading to violent divide

3732
02:23:20,070 --> 02:23:19,439
one is just people disagreeing with each

3733
02:23:22,230 --> 02:23:20,080
other

3734
02:23:23,270 --> 02:23:22,240
that's the difference to me now what do

3735
02:23:27,190 --> 02:23:23,280
you what do you

3736
02:23:30,550 --> 02:23:27,200
see in in in the next six months

3737
02:23:32,630 --> 02:23:30,560
is the country going to go into amnesia

3738
02:23:34,230 --> 02:23:32,640
and forget about the past and we're

3739
02:23:35,830 --> 02:23:34,240
going to move forward and have flowers

3740
02:23:38,230 --> 02:23:35,840
hanging out of our pockets

3741
02:23:42,070 --> 02:23:38,240
or is this going to continue to get out

3742
02:23:46,950 --> 02:23:44,150
you know it's i was having a

3743
02:23:48,150 --> 02:23:46,960
conversation with people on my show for

3744
02:23:49,910 --> 02:23:48,160
everyone watching you know i have my own

3745
02:23:51,910 --> 02:23:49,920
show the greg house show it's on twitch

3746
02:23:55,110 --> 02:23:51,920
live monday wednesday friday

3747
02:23:57,590 --> 02:23:55,120
uh it's 7 p.m but uh we uh we were

3748
02:24:00,710 --> 02:23:57,600
talking about that specifically and

3749
02:24:05,270 --> 02:24:00,720
i don't think the divide is bridgeable

3750
02:24:07,670 --> 02:24:05,280
with um with political terminology with

3751
02:24:09,110 --> 02:24:07,680
debate uh i don't think when you go into

3752
02:24:10,790 --> 02:24:09,120
those debates that anyone's really

3753
02:24:12,550 --> 02:24:10,800
genuine anymore they just want to win

3754
02:24:13,910 --> 02:24:12,560
their side of the debate

3755
02:24:16,230 --> 02:24:13,920
so they'll say what it takes to think

3756
02:24:18,790 --> 02:24:16,240
they've won um so instead

3757
02:24:19,429 --> 02:24:18,800
we need to do stuff that brings people

3758
02:24:28,150 --> 02:24:19,439
uh

3759
02:24:29,750 --> 02:24:28,160
slows everyone down a little bit and

3760
02:24:30,950 --> 02:24:29,760
makes them realize that you know we can

3761
02:24:33,670 --> 02:24:30,960
all live together here

3762
02:24:35,510 --> 02:24:33,680
and i think you know one of the stranger

3763
02:24:37,910 --> 02:24:35,520
things there is

3764
02:24:38,710 --> 02:24:37,920
most of the stuff that is going to make

3765
02:24:41,030 --> 02:24:38,720
your life

3766
02:24:42,469 --> 02:24:41,040
easier where you're not feeling so much

3767
02:24:45,270 --> 02:24:42,479
stress and pain

3768
02:24:46,870 --> 02:24:45,280
are seriously progressive ideas there's

3769
02:24:48,389 --> 02:24:46,880
a reason a lot of those scandinavian

3770
02:24:49,990 --> 02:24:48,399
countries come out at the top of the

3771
02:24:52,230 --> 02:24:50,000
happiness indexes

3772
02:24:53,750 --> 02:24:52,240
and it's their you know health care

3773
02:24:56,469 --> 02:24:53,760
systems it's their

3774
02:24:57,030 --> 02:24:56,479
it's their base pay for people like ubi

3775
02:24:58,710 --> 02:24:57,040
it's

3776
02:25:00,230 --> 02:24:58,720
when you're in finland and you know you

3777
02:25:02,550 --> 02:25:00,240
get pregnant and you're about to have a

3778
02:25:03,110 --> 02:25:02,560
child a box shows up at your house with

3779
02:25:06,469 --> 02:25:03,120
like

3780
02:25:07,990 --> 02:25:06,479
a crib baby clothes the bottles all the

3781
02:25:09,429 --> 02:25:08,000
stuff you need to get started and it

3782
02:25:10,309 --> 02:25:09,439
doesn't matter if you're rich or poor

3783
02:25:13,190 --> 02:25:10,319
you get it

3784
02:25:14,950 --> 02:25:13,200
the car seat like you know if we were to

3785
02:25:16,230 --> 02:25:14,960
get some progressive ideas like a

3786
02:25:18,630 --> 02:25:16,240
universal basic income

3787
02:25:19,830 --> 02:25:18,640
medicare for all uh all these other

3788
02:25:21,910 --> 02:25:19,840
systems in place

3789
02:25:24,150 --> 02:25:21,920
that would make people's lives easier

3790
02:25:26,389 --> 02:25:24,160
and just a little less stressful

3791
02:25:28,389 --> 02:25:26,399
i think they'd calm the [\h__\h] down now

3792
02:25:31,110 --> 02:25:28,399
here's our problem

3793
02:25:32,150 --> 02:25:31,120
we've elected in joe biden and kampala

3794
02:25:34,950 --> 02:25:32,160
harris

3795
02:25:36,070 --> 02:25:34,960
and we've got a schumer pelosi set up on

3796
02:25:39,590 --> 02:25:36,080
the other side of this

3797
02:25:40,550 --> 02:25:39,600
and none of them in my eyes work for the

3798
02:25:43,110 --> 02:25:40,560
people

3799
02:25:44,469 --> 02:25:43,120
we have you know kamala harris who calls

3800
02:25:47,670 --> 02:25:44,479
herself

3801
02:25:50,950 --> 02:25:47,680
her own words top cop

3802
02:25:53,110 --> 02:25:50,960
um she multiple interviews she said that

3803
02:25:54,870 --> 02:25:53,120
uh while we have uh police killing

3804
02:25:56,790 --> 02:25:54,880
people in the streets and protests all

3805
02:25:59,510 --> 02:25:56,800
over the country because of it

3806
02:26:01,510 --> 02:25:59,520
uh we've elected a top cop and while

3807
02:26:04,790 --> 02:26:01,520
we're trying to worry about you know the

3808
02:26:06,870 --> 02:26:04,800
size of our prison population we elect

3809
02:26:09,990 --> 02:26:06,880
the president as a person who

3810
02:26:11,190 --> 02:26:10,000
um enacted the crime bill who put most

3811
02:26:12,309 --> 02:26:11,200
of them in there

3812
02:26:13,670 --> 02:26:12,319
when we're talking about the

3813
02:26:15,590 --> 02:26:13,680
surveillance state and all the

3814
02:26:17,110 --> 02:26:15,600
censorship we don't want to see

3815
02:26:20,150 --> 02:26:17,120
we're talking about the man who helped

3816
02:26:23,190 --> 02:26:20,160
draft the um patriot act

3817
02:26:24,790 --> 02:26:23,200
um for mass surveillance like we didn't

3818
02:26:26,950 --> 02:26:24,800
elect the people that are going to help

3819
02:26:29,830 --> 02:26:26,960
us get to that comfortable space and

3820
02:26:31,750 --> 02:26:29,840
really heal i don't think personally

3821
02:26:33,590 --> 02:26:31,760
i think someone like a bernie would have

3822
02:26:34,309 --> 02:26:33,600
been someone who was better at bringing

3823
02:26:37,349 --> 02:26:34,319
us together

3824
02:26:39,270 --> 02:26:37,359
simply not by convincing

3825
02:26:41,110 --> 02:26:39,280
any far-right people that he was right

3826
02:26:42,389 --> 02:26:41,120
but simply making their lives a little

3827
02:26:44,309 --> 02:26:42,399
better so

3828
02:26:46,550 --> 02:26:44,319
they didn't have to be fighting against

3829
02:26:48,870 --> 02:26:46,560
whatever was causing their problems

3830
02:26:50,630 --> 02:26:48,880
i think that's our solution here whether

3831
02:26:51,990 --> 02:26:50,640
you politically agree with me or not the

3832
02:26:54,230 --> 02:26:52,000
solution to me is

3833
02:26:56,070 --> 02:26:54,240
if everyone's life was just that little

3834
02:26:58,389 --> 02:26:56,080
better they might not be out on the

3835
02:27:01,110 --> 02:26:58,399
streets protesting all day

3836
02:27:01,990 --> 02:27:01,120
yeah especially after a year of lockdown

3837
02:27:05,110 --> 02:27:02,000
where they've had

3838
02:27:07,590 --> 02:27:05,120
uh way too much time to

3839
02:27:08,630 --> 02:27:07,600
to to worry and right now we don't have

3840
02:27:12,150 --> 02:27:08,640
a plan forward

3841
02:27:16,389 --> 02:27:12,160
i mean every i mean that includes me i

3842
02:27:18,790 --> 02:27:16,399
have no idea what the plan is

3843
02:27:20,309 --> 02:27:18,800
and all we want is some sense of

3844
02:27:22,070 --> 02:27:20,319
stability

3845
02:27:23,830 --> 02:27:22,080
and i don't care where it comes from

3846
02:27:26,870 --> 02:27:23,840
greg i really don't i

3847
02:27:28,870 --> 02:27:26,880
i don't everybody needs that i admit

3848
02:27:30,230 --> 02:27:28,880
i admit that i am totally a progressive

3849
02:27:31,510 --> 02:27:30,240
you know when it comes to all this so i

3850
02:27:33,030 --> 02:27:31,520
want all those things for my own

3851
02:27:34,230 --> 02:27:33,040
political views of course

3852
02:27:37,270 --> 02:27:34,240
but i'm just trying to think through

3853
02:27:38,870 --> 02:27:37,280
this logically like what gets someone to

3854
02:27:40,790 --> 02:27:38,880
the point where they think they need to

3855
02:27:42,790 --> 02:27:40,800
be on the streets and it's because

3856
02:27:44,389 --> 02:27:42,800
they're oppressed it's because they're

3857
02:27:46,230 --> 02:27:44,399
hurting it's because

3858
02:27:47,429 --> 02:27:46,240
they aren't making their bills it's a

3859
02:27:48,870 --> 02:27:47,439
hundred reasons

3860
02:27:50,630 --> 02:27:48,880
that gets someone to a point in their

3861
02:27:52,710 --> 02:27:50,640
head where they need to start acting

3862
02:27:54,389 --> 02:27:52,720
right and and i don't care what your

3863
02:27:55,429 --> 02:27:54,399
reason is i'm not even talking from the

3864
02:27:57,349 --> 02:27:55,439
political side

3865
02:27:59,270 --> 02:27:57,359
if we can make life just that much

3866
02:28:02,469 --> 02:27:59,280
better for those people

3867
02:28:05,030 --> 02:28:02,479
i think we all do better i think

3868
02:28:06,309 --> 02:28:05,040
we calm down i think the divide gets

3869
02:28:07,750 --> 02:28:06,319
slightly bridged

3870
02:28:08,950 --> 02:28:07,760
i don't know that we ever come all the

3871
02:28:10,150 --> 02:28:08,960
way back together there's a lot of

3872
02:28:11,990 --> 02:28:10,160
people that i just

3873
02:28:13,910 --> 02:28:12,000
don't find myself ever agreeing with

3874
02:28:15,270 --> 02:28:13,920
they all seem to think uh

3875
02:28:17,670 --> 02:28:15,280
walking around the capitol with a

3876
02:28:19,429 --> 02:28:17,680
confederate flag is an okay thing to do

3877
02:28:24,630 --> 02:28:19,439
uh even in the civil war that thing

3878
02:28:28,389 --> 02:28:27,349
greg house matt you know and see this is

3879
02:28:31,990 --> 02:28:28,399
i want to thank you

3880
02:28:35,670 --> 02:28:32,000
uh uh for coming on tonight but it it is

3881
02:28:36,550 --> 02:28:35,680
great to talk with somebody who is a an

3882
02:28:38,070 --> 02:28:36,560
activist be

3883
02:28:40,309 --> 02:28:38,080
been through what you've been through

3884
02:28:42,230 --> 02:28:40,319
see your intelligence uh on the

3885
02:28:45,590 --> 02:28:42,240
technical side and everything else

3886
02:28:48,150 --> 02:28:45,600
but you believe in what you say

3887
02:28:50,070 --> 02:28:48,160
and and conviction is is half of the

3888
02:28:52,070 --> 02:28:50,080
battle man it's half of the theatrics

3889
02:28:53,429 --> 02:28:52,080
thank you so much my friend and uh i

3890
02:28:55,110 --> 02:28:53,439
look forward to uh

3891
02:28:56,710 --> 02:28:55,120
coming on your show and lighting

3892
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lighting the fires over there too as

3893
02:29:00,550 --> 02:28:57,600
well

3894
02:29:02,070 --> 02:29:00,560
when whenever you're ready anything

3895
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that's not friday is all yours man you

3896
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want next monday

3897
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are you on uh wednesday

3898
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uh let's uh no friday would be best

3899
02:29:12,550 --> 02:29:11,280
i i i'm not on the i'm not on the air on

3900
02:29:14,389 --> 02:29:12,560
friday

3901
02:29:16,309 --> 02:29:14,399
that's when i have a guest every single

3902
02:29:18,630 --> 02:29:16,319
week same guest every time

3903
02:29:19,750 --> 02:29:18,640
uh well then you know what you're gonna

3904
02:29:21,830 --> 02:29:19,760
boot him

3905
02:29:23,750 --> 02:29:21,840
let's plan let's plan something here uh

3906
02:29:27,349 --> 02:29:23,760
right before the end here

3907
02:29:29,590 --> 02:29:27,359
let's do a joint show video both of us

3908
02:29:31,670 --> 02:29:29,600
you're on mine because mine's video

3909
02:29:35,590 --> 02:29:31,680
right and i'm on yours audio

3910
02:29:37,670 --> 02:29:35,600
right now we can do that we can do that

3911
02:29:39,429 --> 02:29:37,680
let's work on that for not next week so

3912
02:29:40,790 --> 02:29:39,439
we can do it right but the week after

3913
02:29:42,550 --> 02:29:40,800
two weeks from today we're gonna figure

3914
02:29:44,070 --> 02:29:42,560
that out you're the best greg thank you

3915
02:29:46,230 --> 02:29:44,080
so much my friend

3916
02:29:48,309 --> 02:29:46,240
all right thanks man great show great

3917
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show uh greg housh and

3918
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again it's very simple uh you can head

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straight over to

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uh greghoush.com all of his info

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is over there and the links are at

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jimmychurchradio.com

3923
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i'm going to take a quick break thank

3924
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you greg have a great night

3925
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thanks everyone i'm going to take a

3926
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quick break and i'm going to come back

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welcome back fade to black i'm here

4009
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jimmy church thank you to greg house

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amazing conversation 747-228-2051

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seven four seven two two eight two zero

4012
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five one open lines right now

4013
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and uh hold on i'm gonna send this tweet

4014
02:34:30,070 --> 02:34:26,319
out right now

4015
02:34:33,110 --> 02:34:30,080
um see i'm overgrown if you

4016
02:34:37,830 --> 02:34:33,120
don't listen to

4017
02:34:40,070 --> 02:34:37,840
everyone seriously

4018
02:34:41,670 --> 02:34:40,080
i'll even hashtag this so everybody can

4019
02:34:44,070 --> 02:34:41,680
see it

4020
02:34:45,910 --> 02:34:44,080
that's it boom that is always my

4021
02:34:48,070 --> 02:34:45,920
position

4022
02:34:49,670 --> 02:34:48,080
you need to listen to everyone when i

4023
02:34:51,270 --> 02:34:49,680
was uh i remember

4024
02:34:52,790 --> 02:34:51,280
uh i've said this so many times on the

4025
02:34:57,030 --> 02:34:52,800
air so i'll say it again

4026
02:35:00,469 --> 02:34:57,040
i was a kid i was a kid i was i was

4027
02:35:05,030 --> 02:35:00,479
i was young i was probably eight

4028
02:35:08,070 --> 02:35:05,040
eight nine years old and

4029
02:35:11,429 --> 02:35:08,080
somebody said to me and i forget what i

4030
02:35:14,630 --> 02:35:11,439
said to trigger this but uh

4031
02:35:15,830 --> 02:35:14,640
i said something and this adult looked

4032
02:35:19,830 --> 02:35:15,840
at me and said

4033
02:35:25,110 --> 02:35:19,840
that is the problem with the world

4034
02:35:27,750 --> 02:35:25,120
nobody listens everybody's talking

4035
02:35:30,230 --> 02:35:27,760
you've got to listen to everybody if

4036
02:35:34,309 --> 02:35:30,240
you're gonna grow

4037
02:35:36,309 --> 02:35:34,319
i never forgot that just stuck with me

4038
02:35:37,830 --> 02:35:36,319
my entire life and everybody you know

4039
02:35:39,270 --> 02:35:37,840
i've always had a problem of talking too

4040
02:35:41,510 --> 02:35:39,280
much and talking over people

4041
02:35:43,190 --> 02:35:41,520
and and things you know on the back of

4042
02:35:43,750 --> 02:35:43,200
my report cards i would come home from

4043
02:35:45,349 --> 02:35:43,760
school

4044
02:35:46,950 --> 02:35:45,359
say in the back of the report card jimmy

4045
02:35:49,030 --> 02:35:46,960
talks too much

4046
02:35:51,510 --> 02:35:49,040
right now i have to have my parents sign

4047
02:35:52,790 --> 02:35:51,520
that and uh take it back to school you

4048
02:35:55,030 --> 02:35:52,800
remember that

4049
02:35:56,309 --> 02:35:55,040
and i'm certainly not the only child to

4050
02:35:57,990 --> 02:35:56,319
have that written on the back of the

4051
02:36:01,270 --> 02:35:58,000
report card but i had it

4052
02:36:05,990 --> 02:36:01,280
on every report card in every grade

4053
02:36:09,830 --> 02:36:06,000
but um but those words were spoken to me

4054
02:36:13,750 --> 02:36:09,840
and i listen to everybody

4055
02:36:15,750 --> 02:36:13,760
there is nothing like a spirited debate

4056
02:36:17,190 --> 02:36:15,760
and and and just putting everything on

4057
02:36:20,630 --> 02:36:17,200
the table that's it

4058
02:36:24,630 --> 02:36:20,640
you must listen to everybody you have to

4059
02:36:28,469 --> 02:36:24,640
you have to and one of the most

4060
02:36:29,190 --> 02:36:28,479
things to me when i would listen to talk

4061
02:36:33,110 --> 02:36:29,200
radio

4062
02:36:37,190 --> 02:36:33,120
uh a lot was listening to

4063
02:36:40,389 --> 02:36:37,200
a radio program that i agreed with ah

4064
02:36:43,830 --> 02:36:40,399
i just i i i lose interest

4065
02:36:46,870 --> 02:36:43,840
i zone out i zone out the

4066
02:36:47,910 --> 02:36:46,880
the programming that i listened to was

4067
02:36:51,910 --> 02:36:47,920
the stuff that i didn't

4068
02:36:56,309 --> 02:36:51,920
agree with let me drive in my car ah

4069
02:37:00,150 --> 02:36:56,319
but i couldn't change the dial no

4070
02:37:02,469 --> 02:37:00,160
that's that's what's interesting

4071
02:37:04,630 --> 02:37:02,479
that's what's interesting so always

4072
02:37:05,429 --> 02:37:04,640
think about that so that's why i just

4073
02:37:08,469 --> 02:37:05,439
tweeted

4074
02:37:11,510 --> 02:37:08,479
that out always listen to everybody all

4075
02:37:14,550 --> 02:37:11,520
right 747-228-2051

4076
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also uh tomorrow night uh is

4077
02:37:20,309 --> 02:37:18,240
fader night um or no no tomorrow night's

4078
02:37:22,230 --> 02:37:20,319
john greenwald thursday night is fader

4079
02:37:24,870 --> 02:37:22,240
night tomorrow night's john greenwald

4080
02:37:25,990 --> 02:37:24,880
but tomorrow is a crazy day in this

4081
02:37:28,469 --> 02:37:26,000
country

4082
02:37:29,190 --> 02:37:28,479
i have no idea what we're gonna wake up

4083
02:37:32,070 --> 02:37:29,200
to and

4084
02:37:33,110 --> 02:37:32,080
and and where we're gonna be at at the

4085
02:37:35,190 --> 02:37:33,120
end of uh

4086
02:37:36,230 --> 02:37:35,200
at the end of the day tomorrow it's

4087
02:37:38,309 --> 02:37:36,240
gonna be very

4088
02:37:39,830 --> 02:37:38,319
very interesting okay all right seven

4089
02:37:41,030 --> 02:37:39,840
four seven two two eight two zero five

4090
02:37:42,550 --> 02:37:41,040
one let's go to the phones

4091
02:37:45,030 --> 02:37:42,560
hi you're live on fade to black who's

4092
02:37:45,040 --> 02:37:52,550
oh oh that's my bad

4093
02:37:55,670 --> 02:37:54,950
it always helps to take somebody off of

4094
02:37:59,270 --> 02:37:55,680
hold

4095
02:38:00,630 --> 02:37:59,280
first and uh so there you go all right

4096
02:38:02,950 --> 02:38:00,640
let's try this again hi you're live i'm

4097
02:38:04,870 --> 02:38:02,960
fade to black who's calling

4098
02:38:06,790 --> 02:38:04,880
this is michael vegas hey mike from

4099
02:38:08,550 --> 02:38:06,800
vegas how are you

4100
02:38:10,309 --> 02:38:08,560
i'm doing great thanks jimmy how are you

4101
02:38:11,990 --> 02:38:10,319
i am fantastic

4102
02:38:14,870 --> 02:38:12,000
it's kind of a mellow day in this

4103
02:38:17,830 --> 02:38:14,880
country you know and uh

4104
02:38:19,270 --> 02:38:17,840
for for our change yeah very nice uh

4105
02:38:21,830 --> 02:38:19,280
yeah no news is good news

4106
02:38:22,870 --> 02:38:21,840
what's on your mind um so that was an

4107
02:38:26,309 --> 02:38:22,880
amazing show

4108
02:38:29,349 --> 02:38:26,319
and uh just

4109
02:38:30,630 --> 02:38:29,359
so hard to wrap your mind around all of

4110
02:38:34,309 --> 02:38:30,640
these things because they're not

4111
02:38:35,670 --> 02:38:34,319
easy um and and there's i could go a

4112
02:38:37,110 --> 02:38:35,680
million directions but there was one

4113
02:38:39,429 --> 02:38:37,120
thing

4114
02:38:40,710 --> 02:38:39,439
and i felt like you almost wanted to say

4115
02:38:41,910 --> 02:38:40,720
this but i i

4116
02:38:43,670 --> 02:38:41,920
i love the fact that you're so

4117
02:38:44,469 --> 02:38:43,680
respectful of your guests even when i

4118
02:38:48,550 --> 02:38:44,479
think you might

4119
02:38:51,510 --> 02:38:48,560
disagree with them and

4120
02:38:52,870 --> 02:38:51,520
to me this is the dilemma is is the

4121
02:38:56,630 --> 02:38:52,880
truth

4122
02:38:58,469 --> 02:38:56,640
on the internet and who gets to be the

4123
02:39:02,150 --> 02:38:58,479
gatekeeper

4124
02:39:05,910 --> 02:39:02,160
and if there are 20

4125
02:39:09,510 --> 02:39:05,920
conspiracy theories and 19 of them

4126
02:39:14,150 --> 02:39:09,520
are just total bunk

4127
02:39:16,070 --> 02:39:14,160
but the 20th one is really important

4128
02:39:17,910 --> 02:39:16,080
and somehow we have the gatekeepers that

4129
02:39:20,870 --> 02:39:17,920
wipe all those things out

4130
02:39:22,550 --> 02:39:20,880
is it worth it to listen to all the bunk

4131
02:39:23,910 --> 02:39:22,560
for the one little bit of truth that's

4132
02:39:24,950 --> 02:39:23,920
really going to be important to all of

4133
02:39:27,110 --> 02:39:24,960
us and how do we

4134
02:39:28,710 --> 02:39:27,120
sift through all these things yeah that

4135
02:39:31,670 --> 02:39:28,720
that's the problem

4136
02:39:32,790 --> 02:39:31,680
but that that right there in of itself

4137
02:39:35,990 --> 02:39:32,800
mike that

4138
02:39:39,110 --> 02:39:36,000
that right there you know and

4139
02:39:42,630 --> 02:39:39,120
um first off

4140
02:39:45,110 --> 02:39:42,640
you have to be able to get all of the

4141
02:39:46,710 --> 02:39:45,120
information and if somebody is cutting

4142
02:39:49,990 --> 02:39:46,720
you off from that

4143
02:39:52,790 --> 02:39:50,000
i'm not so sure if that's cool

4144
02:39:53,590 --> 02:39:52,800
okay and and whether you disagree with

4145
02:39:56,710 --> 02:39:53,600
it or not

4146
02:39:57,590 --> 02:39:56,720
but you have to allow everybody to have

4147
02:40:00,870 --> 02:39:57,600
discernment

4148
02:40:03,990 --> 02:40:00,880
the problem is uh

4149
02:40:06,550 --> 02:40:04,000
uh twofold it's twofold one

4150
02:40:08,550 --> 02:40:06,560
and it's i keep saying this over and

4151
02:40:11,750 --> 02:40:08,560
over and over again

4152
02:40:12,950 --> 02:40:11,760
i don't care what the political system

4153
02:40:15,590 --> 02:40:12,960
is i don't care what the

4154
02:40:16,469 --> 02:40:15,600
conspiracy is i don't care what you are

4155
02:40:20,070 --> 02:40:16,479
being fed

4156
02:40:23,429 --> 02:40:20,080
i don't care what no matter what it is

4157
02:40:30,950 --> 02:40:23,439
don't go all in

4158
02:40:32,070 --> 02:40:30,960
you can't you can't because if if it

4159
02:40:38,870 --> 02:40:32,080
turns out to be

4160
02:40:43,030 --> 02:40:38,880
you're stuck and you have to deprogram

4161
02:40:46,469 --> 02:40:43,040
yourself don't go all in

4162
02:40:49,510 --> 02:40:46,479
you can't you just can't do it um

4163
02:40:50,550 --> 02:40:49,520
i i i can repeat it and repeat it and

4164
02:40:53,910 --> 02:40:50,560
repeat it

4165
02:40:57,190 --> 02:40:53,920
but we all do it i do it

4166
02:40:58,550 --> 02:40:57,200
i do i do it i've gone all in on a few

4167
02:41:01,030 --> 02:40:58,560
things where

4168
02:41:01,990 --> 02:41:01,040
you know after 20 years of being all in

4169
02:41:04,150 --> 02:41:02,000
10 years of being

4170
02:41:05,190 --> 02:41:04,160
all in and i have to step back and say

4171
02:41:09,110 --> 02:41:05,200
hey

4172
02:41:12,469 --> 02:41:09,120
i was wrong you know and it's difficult

4173
02:41:15,510 --> 02:41:12,479
you know it's difficult uh for me to

4174
02:41:16,550 --> 02:41:15,520
but but i do it like i said earlier you

4175
02:41:21,750 --> 02:41:16,560
have

4176
02:41:24,070 --> 02:41:21,760
of things which is which is genius and

4177
02:41:25,349 --> 02:41:24,080
i would say most people probably can't

4178
02:41:26,950 --> 02:41:25,359
do that they're just going to paint

4179
02:41:30,230 --> 02:41:26,960
themselves into a corner

4180
02:41:30,870 --> 02:41:30,240
and defend that idea you know till death

4181
02:41:32,630 --> 02:41:30,880
because

4182
02:41:34,630 --> 02:41:32,640
they're just so invested in it that's

4183
02:41:38,070 --> 02:41:34,640
right but and that's it

4184
02:41:41,429 --> 02:41:38,080
i see it um there

4185
02:41:44,469 --> 02:41:41,439
are things that i have communication

4186
02:41:46,790 --> 02:41:44,479
uh privately uh throughout the day with

4187
02:41:49,110 --> 02:41:46,800
with people that i've known for 35 40

4188
02:41:52,469 --> 02:41:49,120
years you know going back to high school

4189
02:41:56,150 --> 02:41:52,479
and and junior high and and

4190
02:41:57,510 --> 02:41:56,160
i spend i spend time talking them off of

4191
02:41:59,910 --> 02:41:57,520
the cliff

4192
02:42:01,190 --> 02:41:59,920
throwing them softballs i'm not throwing

4193
02:42:04,950 --> 02:42:01,200
them fastballs

4194
02:42:08,790 --> 02:42:04,960
you know no you just you can't do that

4195
02:42:11,030 --> 02:42:08,800
but but yes where i know

4196
02:42:11,990 --> 02:42:11,040
i know these people you know i'm talking

4197
02:42:15,750 --> 02:42:12,000
about people that i

4198
02:42:17,990 --> 02:42:15,760
know i mean well uh

4199
02:42:18,950 --> 02:42:18,000
uh not only classmates but maybe even

4200
02:42:21,110 --> 02:42:18,960
roommates

4201
02:42:22,230 --> 02:42:21,120
you know where i i i you know i know

4202
02:42:25,910 --> 02:42:22,240
these people well

4203
02:42:27,910 --> 02:42:25,920
and and all i can do is that is is just

4204
02:42:30,389 --> 02:42:27,920
throw softballs and say man just

4205
02:42:32,469 --> 02:42:30,399
just just back up just a little bit you

4206
02:42:33,830 --> 02:42:32,479
know get out of the deep end of the pool

4207
02:42:35,830 --> 02:42:33,840
just get out of the deep end for a

4208
02:42:38,469 --> 02:42:35,840
little bit and and and

4209
02:42:40,870 --> 02:42:38,479
and observe from the outside you know

4210
02:42:44,070 --> 02:42:40,880
you can thank me for it later

4211
02:42:45,349 --> 02:42:44,080
um it's tough it's tough and today it's

4212
02:42:48,389 --> 02:42:45,359
obvious

4213
02:42:48,870 --> 02:42:48,399
uh with everybody look i i'll i'll say

4214
02:43:00,150 --> 02:42:48,880
it

4215
02:43:03,510 --> 02:43:00,160
right as crazy as that was

4216
02:43:07,750 --> 02:43:03,520
as crazy as it was you've got a guy

4217
02:43:11,349 --> 02:43:07,760
going into comet pizza with a gun

4218
02:43:16,870 --> 02:43:14,230
hold on a minute here that's where you

4219
02:43:20,150 --> 02:43:16,880
know even even for me that but i

4220
02:43:23,030 --> 02:43:20,160
that's how serious people take it

4221
02:43:24,150 --> 02:43:23,040
you know and and that's that's the

4222
02:43:27,590 --> 02:43:24,160
danger

4223
02:43:29,510 --> 02:43:27,600
so what do we do now do we remove all of

4224
02:43:33,429 --> 02:43:29,520
this stuff from the internet

4225
02:43:36,070 --> 02:43:33,439
i i don't know do we teach discernment

4226
02:43:38,309 --> 02:43:36,080
you know and and let people know that

4227
02:43:39,110 --> 02:43:38,319
you know and and have classes in this i

4228
02:43:42,150 --> 02:43:39,120
don't know

4229
02:43:49,830 --> 02:43:42,160
my

4230
02:43:50,230 --> 02:43:49,840
and so we talk about education sometimes

4231
02:44:02,950 --> 02:43:50,240
i

4232
02:44:06,230 --> 02:44:02,960
where there's you know

4233
02:44:09,110 --> 02:44:06,240
hot button issues and you have to talk

4234
02:44:09,670 --> 02:44:09,120
and defend both sides of the issue just

4235
02:44:11,750 --> 02:44:09,680
so you

4236
02:44:12,870 --> 02:44:11,760
understand that the person who disagrees

4237
02:44:15,750 --> 02:44:12,880
with you

4238
02:44:17,670 --> 02:44:15,760
isn't necessarily crazy maybe they have

4239
02:44:18,389 --> 02:44:17,680
some valid points even if you disagree

4240
02:44:21,510 --> 02:44:18,399
with them so

4241
02:44:23,429 --> 02:44:21,520
yeah i think that's i think that is the

4242
02:44:26,230 --> 02:44:23,439
most important thing is teaching people

4243
02:44:27,830 --> 02:44:26,240
to at least understand the other side it

4244
02:44:29,910 --> 02:44:27,840
doesn't mean they agree with it but look

4245
02:44:32,710 --> 02:44:29,920
at that person for a second say

4246
02:44:33,590 --> 02:44:32,720
okay what is what's defensible about

4247
02:44:36,469 --> 02:44:33,600
what they're saying

4248
02:44:37,990 --> 02:44:36,479
and and you know maybe then we can find

4249
02:44:38,870 --> 02:44:38,000
a common ground or at least not hate

4250
02:44:42,870 --> 02:44:38,880
each other

4251
02:44:47,030 --> 02:44:42,880
now um i just

4252
02:44:50,469 --> 02:44:47,040
i just got this and let me uh

4253
02:44:53,510 --> 02:44:50,479
now this is

4254
02:44:56,630 --> 02:44:53,520
this is the new york times uh this

4255
02:45:01,190 --> 02:44:56,640
is uh 30 minutes old

4256
02:45:03,510 --> 02:45:01,200
uh it has just been posted uh

4257
02:45:05,670 --> 02:45:03,520
i mean this is fresh okay everybody i

4258
02:45:07,670 --> 02:45:05,680
haven't vetted this on other news sites

4259
02:45:09,190 --> 02:45:07,680
yet but it is the new york times

4260
02:45:10,790 --> 02:45:09,200
and it's exactly what we're talking

4261
02:45:14,230 --> 02:45:10,800
about right here

4262
02:45:16,230 --> 02:45:14,240
youtube has suspended president trump's

4263
02:45:18,230 --> 02:45:16,240
channel over concern about ongoing

4264
02:45:21,030 --> 02:45:18,240
potential for violence

4265
02:45:21,750 --> 02:45:21,040
and in a tweet on youtube's official

4266
02:45:23,670 --> 02:45:21,760
account

4267
02:45:24,790 --> 02:45:23,680
the google loan video site said it has

4268
02:45:27,349 --> 02:45:24,800
suspended

4269
02:45:29,429 --> 02:45:27,359
mr trump's account after one of his

4270
02:45:30,710 --> 02:45:29,439
recent videos violated its policy

4271
02:45:32,309 --> 02:45:30,720
banning content that spreads

4272
02:45:35,349 --> 02:45:32,319
misinformation

4273
02:45:37,670 --> 02:45:35,359
uh about election fraud youtube said it

4274
02:45:38,950 --> 02:45:37,680
would not be able to upload new content

4275
02:45:41,510 --> 02:45:38,960
uh president trump

4276
02:45:42,389 --> 02:45:41,520
to his channel uh 2.8 million

4277
02:45:45,750 --> 02:45:42,399
subscribers

4278
02:45:48,550 --> 02:45:45,760
for at least seven days youtube has also

4279
02:45:52,710 --> 02:45:48,560
said it is disabling comments

4280
02:45:55,590 --> 02:45:52,720
on his video indefinitely

4281
02:45:57,429 --> 02:45:55,600
it was not immediately it was not

4282
02:45:59,030 --> 02:45:57,439
immediately which video had triggered

4283
02:46:02,389 --> 02:45:59,040
the suspension of his

4284
02:46:06,230 --> 02:46:02,399
account i am now looking at the

4285
02:46:11,110 --> 02:46:06,240
official tweet uh yep and here it is

4286
02:46:14,230 --> 02:46:11,120
uh on on twitter i am looking at it here

4287
02:46:19,750 --> 02:46:18,070
wow i mean this is this is incredible

4288
02:46:21,110 --> 02:46:19,760
this is incredible this is exactly what

4289
02:46:24,550 --> 02:46:21,120
i'm talking about i mean i

4290
02:46:25,349 --> 02:46:24,560
i don't know uh where all of this is

4291
02:46:26,630 --> 02:46:25,359
gonna end

4292
02:46:28,469 --> 02:46:26,640
you know i said this at the beginning

4293
02:46:30,389 --> 02:46:28,479
nobody does these are hard these are

4294
02:46:32,550 --> 02:46:30,399
hard topics they're just

4295
02:46:35,269 --> 02:46:32,560
anybody that has an easy answer i don't

4296
02:46:38,550 --> 02:46:35,279
think they're really grasping

4297
02:46:41,110 --> 02:46:38,560
all the the ramifications all the the

4298
02:46:41,670 --> 02:46:41,120
you know it just it comes up like you

4299
02:46:44,710 --> 02:46:41,680
said in

4300
02:46:46,309 --> 02:46:44,720
every part of our life and and

4301
02:46:47,910 --> 02:46:46,319
i don't think there are easy solutions

4302
02:46:49,750 --> 02:46:47,920
like mostly because we're just humans

4303
02:46:51,269 --> 02:46:49,760
and we're kind of messed up so

4304
02:46:53,269 --> 02:46:51,279
you know we're gonna do the wrong thing

4305
02:46:55,910 --> 02:46:53,279
a lot this kind of

4306
02:46:56,870 --> 02:46:55,920
um uh and i was talking about this with

4307
02:46:59,830 --> 02:46:56,880
greg

4308
02:47:01,910 --> 02:46:59,840
and i i really mean this i am human just

4309
02:47:07,269 --> 02:47:01,920
like everybody else

4310
02:47:09,190 --> 02:47:07,279
this stress i mean this is stress

4311
02:47:10,389 --> 02:47:09,200
i mean just being projected out on

4312
02:47:13,750 --> 02:47:10,399
everybody being

4313
02:47:16,790 --> 02:47:13,760
pummeled with this every minute of

4314
02:47:19,830 --> 02:47:16,800
the day it's just coming in

4315
02:47:22,150 --> 02:47:19,840
and and right now everybody's at home

4316
02:47:23,590 --> 02:47:22,160
and so it's being fed into them just fed

4317
02:47:27,750 --> 02:47:23,600
into them this kind of stuff

4318
02:47:30,070 --> 02:47:27,760
all day long this is stressful

4319
02:47:31,110 --> 02:47:30,080
stressful this is incredible i don't

4320
02:47:34,150 --> 02:47:31,120
even uh i don't

4321
02:47:34,469 --> 02:47:34,160
even know how to uh uh how to look at

4322
02:47:37,190 --> 02:47:34,479
this

4323
02:47:39,429 --> 02:47:37,200
i am literally on the twitter page right

4324
02:47:42,630 --> 02:47:39,439
now the tweet went out

4325
02:47:44,630 --> 02:47:42,640
uh one hour ago of course it is uh

4326
02:47:45,670 --> 02:47:44,640
uh completely viral i don't know what's

4327
02:47:48,230 --> 02:47:45,680
trending and

4328
02:47:49,670 --> 02:47:48,240
and what's happening right now but this

4329
02:47:52,710 --> 02:47:49,680
this is pretty big news

4330
02:47:55,110 --> 02:47:52,720
i said it earlier today i mean it

4331
02:47:56,389 --> 02:47:55,120
there isn't once you are on the bad side

4332
02:47:59,990 --> 02:47:56,399
of tech

4333
02:48:04,630 --> 02:48:00,000
you can't outrun it you can't outrun it

4334
02:48:07,990 --> 02:48:05,910
you've seen all the black bears you know

4335
02:48:09,990 --> 02:48:08,000
that yes this episode like christmas

4336
02:48:11,670 --> 02:48:10,000
yes i i made this show to my brother

4337
02:48:14,550 --> 02:48:11,680
that trump is

4338
02:48:16,550 --> 02:48:14,560
the guy in white christmas you know he's

4339
02:48:19,510 --> 02:48:16,560
walking out and nobody can see him

4340
02:48:20,630 --> 02:48:19,520
he's invisible there are certain

4341
02:48:23,990 --> 02:48:20,640
assumptions

4342
02:48:26,150 --> 02:48:24,000
um uh that people make

4343
02:48:28,230 --> 02:48:26,160
because of the verbiage and the

4344
02:48:31,830 --> 02:48:28,240
terminology and the dogma that is

4345
02:48:33,269 --> 02:48:31,840
in uh in society that the president of

4346
02:48:34,389 --> 02:48:33,279
the united states is the president of

4347
02:48:35,750 --> 02:48:34,399
the free world the president of the

4348
02:48:36,950 --> 02:48:35,760
united states is the most powerful

4349
02:48:37,910 --> 02:48:36,960
person in the world the president of the

4350
02:48:40,710 --> 02:48:37,920
united states

4351
02:48:41,590 --> 02:48:40,720
and and we have heard this over and over

4352
02:48:44,950 --> 02:48:41,600
again since

4353
02:48:48,389 --> 02:48:44,960
you're you're a kid and and

4354
02:48:50,469 --> 02:48:48,399
here we are today with this stuff

4355
02:48:51,830 --> 02:48:50,479
going down and it's like the latest

4356
02:48:52,950 --> 02:48:51,840
breaking news throughout the day

4357
02:48:54,950 --> 02:48:52,960
throughout the day throughout the day

4358
02:49:02,469 --> 02:48:54,960
like i said deutsche bank earlier

4359
02:49:06,630 --> 02:49:05,110
pinterest doesn't care about the

4360
02:49:09,429 --> 02:49:06,640
president of the united states

4361
02:49:09,750 --> 02:49:09,439
and what that title holds and and once

4362
02:49:12,389 --> 02:49:09,760
big

4363
02:49:14,710 --> 02:49:12,399
tech has started flipping these switches

4364
02:49:17,349 --> 02:49:14,720
even the president of the united states

4365
02:49:20,309 --> 02:49:17,359
doesn't have the power to turn around

4366
02:49:22,870 --> 02:49:20,319
and flip that switch back on

4367
02:49:24,230 --> 02:49:22,880
you know i i i don't know i don't know

4368
02:49:27,110 --> 02:49:24,240
what the message is

4369
02:49:28,389 --> 02:49:27,120
i don't know i don't know it's all crazy

4370
02:49:28,950 --> 02:49:28,399
and it's hard to wrap your mind around

4371
02:49:31,429 --> 02:49:28,960
it well

4372
02:49:32,230 --> 02:49:31,439
how are you i mean my like i said i'm

4373
02:49:34,309 --> 02:49:32,240
only human

4374
02:49:35,670 --> 02:49:34,319
but this stress you know i keep talking

4375
02:49:36,950 --> 02:49:35,680
about these headaches that i've gotten

4376
02:49:39,990 --> 02:49:36,960
from kovid

4377
02:49:43,750 --> 02:49:40,000
and i and then there's the other part

4378
02:49:47,190 --> 02:49:43,760
where my brain is forced into

4379
02:49:50,150 --> 02:49:47,200
dealing with all of this emotional news

4380
02:49:50,870 --> 02:49:50,160
that is constantly being flooded in my

4381
02:49:53,269 --> 02:49:50,880
direction

4382
02:49:53,990 --> 02:49:53,279
it's the same thing for everybody else

4383
02:49:57,990 --> 02:49:54,000
right how are

4384
02:49:59,110 --> 02:49:58,000
you coping with it uh well i'm like ej i

4385
02:50:00,630 --> 02:49:59,120
don't know if you remember i

4386
02:50:03,190 --> 02:50:00,640
spoke with you a couple weeks ago and i

4387
02:50:06,389 --> 02:50:03,200
i just got over the code with myself

4388
02:50:09,670 --> 02:50:06,399
and i am ridiculously healthy

4389
02:50:11,830 --> 02:50:09,680
as a rule but i

4390
02:50:13,190 --> 02:50:11,840
feel like yeah i'm stressed out and i

4391
02:50:15,269 --> 02:50:13,200
feel like the stress is

4392
02:50:16,710 --> 02:50:15,279
the reason i got sick i think my body's

4393
02:50:18,790 --> 02:50:16,720
just worn down

4394
02:50:20,309 --> 02:50:18,800
so the the short answer is i'm not

4395
02:50:22,230 --> 02:50:20,319
coping very well

4396
02:50:23,750 --> 02:50:22,240
i mean i hang out with my dogs a lot

4397
02:50:26,550 --> 02:50:23,760
that's that's my big coping

4398
02:50:27,349 --> 02:50:26,560
mechanism but that's that's about it

4399
02:50:31,110 --> 02:50:27,359
yeah i don't know

4400
02:50:32,469 --> 02:50:31,120
if um uh madeline just said not me i

4401
02:50:33,990 --> 02:50:32,479
don't have cable tv

4402
02:50:35,910 --> 02:50:34,000
i'll watch what i want listen to the

4403
02:50:36,870 --> 02:50:35,920
music i enjoy that's that's what i try

4404
02:50:40,070 --> 02:50:36,880
to do

4405
02:50:43,269 --> 02:50:40,080
i unfortunately um

4406
02:50:45,990 --> 02:50:43,279
am a host of uh of a radio program

4407
02:50:47,670 --> 02:50:46,000
where i do have to pay attention uh to

4408
02:50:51,590 --> 02:50:47,680
what's going on in the world

4409
02:50:54,790 --> 02:50:51,600
and i i i pick and choose what

4410
02:50:56,150 --> 02:50:54,800
what i read um but the rest of it is

4411
02:50:58,150 --> 02:50:56,160
just flooding in

4412
02:51:00,070 --> 02:50:58,160
right and it's it's everywhere you can't

4413
02:51:00,389 --> 02:51:00,080
escape it no you can't escape it i don't

4414
02:51:03,990 --> 02:51:00,399
have

4415
02:51:04,950 --> 02:51:04,000
anyway but you just can't escape it it's

4416
02:51:07,269 --> 02:51:04,960
everywhere so it's

4417
02:51:08,070 --> 02:51:07,279
it's there's no hiding it's just the

4418
02:51:11,510 --> 02:51:08,080
world we live in

4419
02:51:14,389 --> 02:51:11,520
now um i want to ask you this it's uh

4420
02:51:15,510 --> 02:51:14,399
probably uh you're gonna have one of the

4421
02:51:17,750 --> 02:51:15,520
most valuable

4422
02:51:19,269 --> 02:51:17,760
answers that you can give me and the

4423
02:51:23,030 --> 02:51:19,279
audience

4424
02:51:26,150 --> 02:51:23,040
is is the

4425
02:51:28,389 --> 02:51:26,160
the closing down from big tech now it's

4426
02:51:29,910 --> 02:51:28,399
it's it's youtube but you know it's

4427
02:51:32,630 --> 02:51:29,920
twitter it's facebook and

4428
02:51:33,910 --> 02:51:32,640
and and the other things uh shutting

4429
02:51:37,269 --> 02:51:33,920
this off

4430
02:51:39,990 --> 02:51:37,279
but we didn't have this

4431
02:51:41,190 --> 02:51:40,000
50 years ago 40 years ago we didn't have

4432
02:51:45,030 --> 02:51:41,200
it

4433
02:51:47,349 --> 02:51:45,040
go on television

4434
02:51:49,030 --> 02:51:47,359
the president still has the oval office

4435
02:51:51,269 --> 02:51:49,040
he has a press room that he can

4436
02:51:54,550 --> 02:51:51,279
broadcast from

4437
02:51:57,110 --> 02:51:54,560
so is the social media side

4438
02:51:58,230 --> 02:51:57,120
of closing him down is it really that

4439
02:52:01,190 --> 02:51:58,240
effective

4440
02:52:02,550 --> 02:52:01,200
or does he still have the ability to

4441
02:52:04,790 --> 02:52:02,560
have a voice

4442
02:52:07,990 --> 02:52:04,800
like all presidents had uh before the

4443
02:52:11,349 --> 02:52:10,070
he does right now but he's not going to

4444
02:52:13,429 --> 02:52:11,359
be president very long

4445
02:52:14,870 --> 02:52:13,439
i i'll be honest i never heard of parlor

4446
02:52:16,389 --> 02:52:14,880
before tonight i'm not really

4447
02:52:18,230 --> 02:52:16,399
it's not really my thing all the the

4448
02:52:20,950 --> 02:52:18,240
social media stuff but

4449
02:52:22,469 --> 02:52:20,960
as i was listening to the interview it

4450
02:52:25,349 --> 02:52:22,479
did occur to me that

4451
02:52:26,389 --> 02:52:25,359
you know there's there will be a market

4452
02:52:27,830 --> 02:52:26,399
for

4453
02:52:29,670 --> 02:52:27,840
somebody to you know if it's not

4454
02:52:30,870 --> 02:52:29,680
parliament you know there's if there is

4455
02:52:33,910 --> 02:52:30,880
a market for

4456
02:52:34,550 --> 02:52:33,920
for a specific kind of social media

4457
02:52:38,150 --> 02:52:34,560
company

4458
02:52:39,429 --> 02:52:38,160
it's gonna come into existence and

4459
02:52:40,870 --> 02:52:39,439
you know the people that want to have a

4460
02:52:42,230 --> 02:52:40,880
voice are gonna have a voice because

4461
02:52:43,269 --> 02:52:42,240
someone's gonna make money off of them

4462
02:52:45,590 --> 02:52:43,279
so i

4463
02:52:46,630 --> 02:52:45,600
i don't anticipate any of this going

4464
02:52:49,190 --> 02:52:46,640
away just because

4465
02:52:49,670 --> 02:52:49,200
you know twitter and facebook shut them

4466
02:52:50,950 --> 02:52:49,680
down

4467
02:52:53,269 --> 02:52:50,960
you know somebody else is gonna open

4468
02:52:54,830 --> 02:52:53,279
something up for them yeah i agree with

4469
02:52:57,429 --> 02:52:54,840
that too as well

4470
02:53:00,790 --> 02:52:57,439
and uh i'm just shocked

4471
02:53:04,070 --> 02:53:00,800
i mean i this is uh

4472
02:53:07,349 --> 02:53:04,080
uh taking on things to uh

4473
02:53:08,389 --> 02:53:07,359
another level it's uh this is the thing

4474
02:53:11,590 --> 02:53:08,399
that uh richard

4475
02:53:13,190 --> 02:53:11,600
well like um okay hold on uh this this

4476
02:53:15,590 --> 02:53:13,200
guess is an example of why

4477
02:53:18,150 --> 02:53:15,600
i am trying to skip this week this is a

4478
02:53:20,710 --> 02:53:18,160
choice but censorship is not

4479
02:53:21,910 --> 02:53:20,720
i listen to you uh to get a break from

4480
02:53:25,510 --> 02:53:21,920
all of this stuff

4481
02:53:26,309 --> 02:53:25,520
right and this is from cameron i totally

4482
02:53:29,590 --> 02:53:26,319
get it

4483
02:53:31,429 --> 02:53:29,600
and just like um this is the thing

4484
02:53:32,630 --> 02:53:31,439
and and richard dolan said this last

4485
02:53:35,349 --> 02:53:32,640
night on the air

4486
02:53:36,070 --> 02:53:35,359
it's gotten to the point where we were

4487
02:53:38,950 --> 02:53:36,080
able to

4488
02:53:39,269 --> 02:53:38,960
always do the dance and avoid politics

4489
02:53:45,830 --> 02:53:39,279
in

4490
02:53:48,710 --> 02:53:45,840
we can't we can't we can't

4491
02:53:49,590 --> 02:53:48,720
ignore the conversation right now it

4492
02:53:53,910 --> 02:53:49,600
it's it's

4493
02:53:57,269 --> 02:53:53,920
the world that we are in

4494
02:53:58,550 --> 02:53:57,279
right now it's it's crazy it is blowing

4495
02:54:00,150 --> 02:53:58,560
my mind

4496
02:54:01,670 --> 02:54:00,160
i don't know i don't know it feels like

4497
02:54:03,269 --> 02:54:01,680
it feels like we're in it feels like

4498
02:54:05,670 --> 02:54:03,279
we're in an episode of black mirror

4499
02:54:06,710 --> 02:54:05,680
some kind of weird thing that just

4500
02:54:09,750 --> 02:54:06,720
doesn't make sense

4501
02:54:10,710 --> 02:54:09,760
and everything feels very surreal well i

4502
02:54:15,990 --> 02:54:10,720
said this

4503
02:54:18,389 --> 02:54:16,000
and then i said it on the air

4504
02:54:20,469 --> 02:54:18,399
and it's just this weird feeling maybe

4505
02:54:23,349 --> 02:54:20,479
it's covered dementia i don't know

4506
02:54:23,750 --> 02:54:23,359
but i said i feel like i'm in the video

4507
02:54:26,790 --> 02:54:23,760
game

4508
02:54:27,269 --> 02:54:26,800
silent hill i mean like physically for

4509
02:54:30,070 --> 02:54:27,279
real

4510
02:54:32,389 --> 02:54:30,080
i'm not saying like i'm in an episode

4511
02:54:35,990 --> 02:54:32,399
you know i'm saying this metaphorically

4512
02:54:39,110 --> 02:54:36,000
i'm saying i'm walking around feeling

4513
02:54:41,990 --> 02:54:39,120
feeling pretty weird like

4514
02:54:43,830 --> 02:54:42,000
things have changed you know like i've

4515
02:54:45,110 --> 02:54:43,840
crossed the street and i went from full

4516
02:54:52,230 --> 02:54:45,120
color

4517
02:54:55,830 --> 02:54:52,240
into sepia tone and everything is just

4518
02:54:59,110 --> 02:54:55,840
a little bit different it's like

4519
02:55:01,990 --> 02:54:59,120
uh a parallel world an alternate

4520
02:55:03,830 --> 02:55:02,000
universe and and i'm saying this like as

4521
02:55:06,150 --> 02:55:03,840
a matter of fact

4522
02:55:08,469 --> 02:55:06,160
this is what the media has done this is

4523
02:55:10,550 --> 02:55:08,479
what social media has done

4524
02:55:12,870 --> 02:55:10,560
and there's no denying the fact mike

4525
02:55:15,269 --> 02:55:12,880
that we have all been locked down

4526
02:55:15,990 --> 02:55:15,279
uh we have all been forced into our

4527
02:55:19,750 --> 02:55:16,000
homes for

4528
02:55:21,750 --> 02:55:19,760
12 months with nothing but bad news

4529
02:55:23,349 --> 02:55:21,760
and then you couple that with everything

4530
02:55:25,990 --> 02:55:23,359
else that is going on

4531
02:55:26,870 --> 02:55:26,000
and and you can't help but feel

4532
02:55:30,309 --> 02:55:26,880
different

4533
02:55:31,670 --> 02:55:30,319
you can't so do you let me ask you do

4534
02:55:33,670 --> 02:55:31,680
you have

4535
02:55:34,790 --> 02:55:33,680
well i'm going to say my opinion on this

4536
02:55:38,309 --> 02:55:34,800
first and i'm going to ask you

4537
02:55:39,269 --> 02:55:38,319
because i i can't wrap my brain around

4538
02:55:41,750 --> 02:55:39,279
this i agree with

4539
02:55:42,870 --> 02:55:41,760
everything you just said and i'm trying

4540
02:55:45,990 --> 02:55:42,880
to figure out

4541
02:55:49,190 --> 02:55:46,000
what this means or if there's some

4542
02:55:51,910 --> 02:55:49,200
great plan or if this this is some great

4543
02:55:53,429 --> 02:55:51,920
sociological experiment or what i i

4544
02:55:53,990 --> 02:55:53,439
can't wrap my mind around it but it

4545
02:55:56,870 --> 02:55:54,000
doesn't

4546
02:55:58,630 --> 02:55:56,880
feel like it's an accident it feels like

4547
02:56:01,830 --> 02:55:58,640
something is happening and

4548
02:56:03,590 --> 02:56:01,840
and i i i can't make any sense of it and

4549
02:56:04,150 --> 02:56:03,600
i don't so i don't even pretend to i

4550
02:56:08,550 --> 02:56:04,160
just

4551
02:56:12,790 --> 02:56:08,560
do it

4552
02:56:17,269 --> 02:56:12,800
yeah and i um i'm hoping

4553
02:56:20,230 --> 02:56:17,279
uh like i always do that

4554
02:56:21,590 --> 02:56:20,240
we're we're gonna get through it right

4555
02:56:23,269 --> 02:56:21,600
we're gonna come through with the fog

4556
02:56:24,469 --> 02:56:23,279
the smoke is gonna clear we're gonna

4557
02:56:25,750 --> 02:56:24,479
come back through it's gonna be

4558
02:56:29,190 --> 02:56:25,760
springtime and

4559
02:56:31,349 --> 02:56:29,200
the hummingbirds and rainbows and and

4560
02:56:32,630 --> 02:56:31,359
and and we're going to get through this

4561
02:56:35,750 --> 02:56:32,640
the the

4562
02:56:39,510 --> 02:56:35,760
the difficult part for me to uh

4563
02:56:41,670 --> 02:56:39,520
to put trust in is that the media which

4564
02:56:44,309 --> 02:56:41,680
has the biggest amount of

4565
02:56:44,790 --> 02:56:44,319
culpability and responsibility in all of

4566
02:56:47,110 --> 02:56:44,800
this

4567
02:56:48,630 --> 02:56:47,120
is going to ratchet down the temperature

4568
02:56:51,590 --> 02:56:48,640
you know and i don't know

4569
02:56:53,110 --> 02:56:51,600
when that is going to happen i i have no

4570
02:56:54,389 --> 02:56:53,120
idea rita just posted

4571
02:56:55,830 --> 02:56:54,399
i think they're making good money i

4572
02:56:56,950 --> 02:56:55,840
think they're making good money off all

4573
02:56:58,870 --> 02:56:56,960
the chaos so i don't

4574
02:57:00,790 --> 02:56:58,880
i don't anticipate that happening

4575
02:57:02,230 --> 02:57:00,800
anytime soon it's i think it's i think

4576
02:57:05,750 --> 02:57:02,240
this is good for ratings for them

4577
02:57:08,389 --> 02:57:05,760
well you know um i had said earlier

4578
02:57:09,269 --> 02:57:08,399
uh this year uh we're only in january

4579
02:57:13,190 --> 02:57:09,279
12th

4580
02:57:16,469 --> 02:57:13,200
but i had said that um i am going to

4581
02:57:19,510 --> 02:57:16,479
reserve all thoughts until

4582
02:57:22,070 --> 02:57:19,520
january 21st i we

4583
02:57:23,110 --> 02:57:22,080
i i just need to get to that point i

4584
02:57:26,950 --> 02:57:23,120
need to get to that point

4585
02:57:30,070 --> 02:57:29,349
right right today's the 12th yeah

4586
02:57:32,230 --> 02:57:30,080
today's the

4587
02:57:33,110 --> 02:57:32,240
12th or 20th that's eight days tomorrow

4588
02:57:35,349 --> 02:57:33,120
will be seven

4589
02:57:37,910 --> 02:57:35,359
so we're a week away and then and

4590
02:57:40,630 --> 02:57:37,920
somehow get to the 21st and let's see

4591
02:57:41,030 --> 02:57:40,640
let's see where we are at you know the

4592
02:57:48,309 --> 02:57:41,040
and

4593
02:57:51,190 --> 02:57:48,319
talking about the status of

4594
02:57:52,070 --> 02:57:51,200
of us that's what i'm talking about you

4595
02:57:53,750 --> 02:57:52,080
know not not

4596
02:57:55,349 --> 02:57:53,760
yeah how do we function in the world how

4597
02:57:55,910 --> 02:57:55,359
do we how do we function without going

4598
02:57:57,510 --> 02:57:55,920
crazy

4599
02:57:59,750 --> 02:57:57,520
you know and that's my concern my

4600
02:58:01,269 --> 02:57:59,760
concern is my family

4601
02:58:02,870 --> 02:58:01,279
this country and the people of this

4602
02:58:06,150 --> 02:58:02,880
country and the people of the world

4603
02:58:08,389 --> 02:58:06,160
that's it that's it that's my concern i

4604
02:58:09,990 --> 02:58:08,399
could give a crap about politics i could

4605
02:58:12,550 --> 02:58:10,000
give a crap but right now

4606
02:58:13,030 --> 02:58:12,560
that's the elephant in the room you know

4607
02:58:29,269 --> 02:58:13,040
and

4608
02:58:31,670 --> 02:58:29,279
about crowds what about restaurants

4609
02:58:33,990 --> 02:58:31,680
theaters i don't know the next time i'm

4610
02:58:35,510 --> 02:58:34,000
gonna see the inside of a theater and

4611
02:58:38,550 --> 02:58:35,520
eat some popcorn

4612
02:58:41,349 --> 02:58:38,560
and drink a frigging black cherry

4613
02:58:43,590 --> 02:58:41,359
coke slurpee with my over buttered

4614
02:58:45,429 --> 02:58:43,600
popcorn

4615
02:58:47,349 --> 02:58:45,439
you know what am i or whatever or

4616
02:58:50,550 --> 02:58:47,359
whatever that butter like substance

4617
02:58:53,190 --> 02:58:50,560
and i i i double up on it but i don't

4618
02:58:55,110 --> 02:58:53,200
know what i'm gonna see that again

4619
02:58:57,269 --> 02:58:55,120
you know i i don't know i don't know

4620
02:58:58,230 --> 02:58:57,279
i've already run to the end of not only

4621
02:59:00,950 --> 02:58:58,240
this show

4622
02:59:02,630 --> 02:59:00,960
but i've run to the end of amazon prime

4623
02:59:04,790 --> 02:59:02,640
and netflix

4624
02:59:07,750 --> 02:59:04,800
i'm out of i've that's it i've seen

4625
02:59:11,429 --> 02:59:10,230
on those servers there's nothing left

4626
02:59:13,110 --> 02:59:11,439
mike i gotta go

4627
02:59:15,030 --> 02:59:13,120
hey jimmy jimmy can i throw something

4628
02:59:16,870 --> 02:59:15,040
out real quick um things that i just

4629
02:59:19,830 --> 02:59:16,880
recovered and i heard something

4630
02:59:21,750 --> 02:59:19,840
yesterday i think uh i signed up with

4631
02:59:24,230 --> 02:59:21,760
the red cross today because they need

4632
02:59:26,550 --> 02:59:24,240
plasma from uh coveted survivors so

4633
02:59:28,550 --> 02:59:26,560
anybody that is a coveted survivor

4634
02:59:30,230 --> 02:59:28,560
uh you know go and give him some blood

4635
02:59:31,590 --> 02:59:30,240
and let him get some plasma

4636
02:59:33,269 --> 02:59:31,600
i'll see you tomorrow night mike thank

4637
02:59:34,790 --> 02:59:33,279
you so much

4638
02:59:37,190 --> 02:59:34,800
thanks jimmy have a good night great

4639
02:59:39,030 --> 02:59:37,200
conversation and uh with that

4640
02:59:41,190 --> 02:59:39,040
uh i am now going to get cut off the

4641
02:59:43,030 --> 02:59:41,200
network here any second

4642
02:59:44,870 --> 02:59:43,040
fade to black's executive producers rita

4643
02:59:46,150 --> 02:59:44,880
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4644
02:59:48,070 --> 02:59:46,160
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4645
02:59:50,710 --> 02:59:48,080
announcers are steve harter gene vettel

4646
02:59:53,710 --> 02:59:50,720
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4647
02:59:55,190 --> 02:59:53,720
music doug aldridge intro spaceboy

4648
02:59:57,269 --> 02:59:55,200
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4649
02:59:58,790 --> 02:59:57,279
fade to black is produced by kjcr for

4650
03:00:00,309 --> 02:59:58,800
the game changer network and syndication

4651
03:00:01,830 --> 03:00:00,319
is k-g-r-a

4652
03:00:04,710 --> 03:00:01,840
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4653
03:00:06,230 --> 03:00:04,720
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4654
03:00:07,990 --> 03:00:06,240
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4655
03:00:09,429 --> 03:00:08,000
it cannot be re-broadcast animal to

4656
03:00:09,990 --> 03:00:09,439
copied or used anywhere in the known

4657
03:00:11,429 --> 03:00:10,000
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4658
03:00:13,429 --> 03:00:11,439
without written permission from fade to

4659
03:00:15,030 --> 03:00:13,439
black with the game changer network

4660
03:00:17,269 --> 03:00:15,040
our murals jimmy church tomorrow night

4661
03:00:20,309 --> 03:00:17,279
right here john greenwald until then i